Okay, are we calling this a
trade secret?
Yeah, why not?
What else would you call it?
I'd call it David's bathrobe.
Exactly, actually I'm wearing
shorts.
Luckily, I'm doing a solo queen
though.
Let me just tell the trade
secret listeners that we're
using the SIP phone, the X10
phone.
I think the quality is
definitely lower than other
systems we tried, but this is a
very
open protocol.
What time is it there, Dave?
It must be the middle of night
for you.
Was it like 5am, 6am?
Yeah, no, it's 3am.
2.56am.
I just did the open source
release of Frontier.
That was a big thing.
That's almost another way of
measuring time.
Your computer problem is back
now.
You're cutting out again.
It is.
Yeah, well, yeah, no.
Just keep trying and we'll see
how it sounds.
So much for recording this.
This computer, we're at the
point, you know, Windows
machines, every so often you
have
to buy a new computer.
It's the same with the Mac,
Dave.
Who's at the point?
Yeah, mine's on the ropes here
too.
Is it really?
Maybe it's time to get like new
computers.
Well, I'm quitting things.
Well what I wanted to do is,
when we move is when I want to
buy a new computer.
That's always a great time to
buy a new PC is when you move.
New house, new stuff, it makes
you feel good.
Yeah, I just moved, so maybe my
problem is that I haven't
bought a new computer yet.
I think my house...
Yeah.
No, go ahead.
Well, I think what happens is
you get into all kinds of
really heavy stuff that you're
doing and I've been doing all
this audio stuff and compress
ing and recording huge files
and I can see it.
You know, when my computer,
someone goes wrong and I've had
to hard reset it a couple of
times in the past few weeks,
you can see all these indirect
orphan nodes, you know, and
all this stuff and it's trying
to say, "I can't repair this
and I've got..."
It should be five instead of
four directory points and it's
like, "You know that's not
right."
Yeah, that's part of it.
The other part of it is that
you're not really supposed to
install any software on these
things.
Oh, of course, yeah.
That's according to the license
you mean.
Exactly the way the
manufacturer sent it to you is
how you're supposed to use it.
So you and I both, I think,
have been in the last crazily
installing all kinds of crap
on our computers.
But those things have in turn
been installing all kinds of
crap.
Yeah.
You think you said goodbye, you
think you said goodbye to them,
but...
So I tell you though, your
computer may be a little bit h
osed right now, but I don't like
this X10 at all.
Why don't you put on your
instant messenger?
That's so much better.
All right, let's do that.
Okay, you can just turn it on
during this call.
We shouldn't have to do too
much.
Oh, really?
Okay, hold on.
Yeah, let me see if you show up
here on the screen.
I explicitly quit though that I
have to figure out...
You have no idea how crappy
this sounds.
This sounds so shitty.
I believe you.
You know, I got a call
yesterday while we're doing
this.
I got a call yesterday from
Steve Gilmore.
Steve Gilmore, yeah.
I think you got one too.
We spoke briefly.
You know, even when we're just
fucking around and nothing's
working, does he get the real
kick out of what we're doing?
Well, if you consider our
audience, yeah, I bet people
get a kick out of that too.
That's right.
I'm doing soliloquy.
It's much better than soliloquy
.
It's the word of the week now,
officially.
Soliloquy.
It's unscripted news, actually.
I'm linking to it right now.
I have a little review of your
...
If you want to go get your ego
straight, go read scripted
right now.
Oh, I'm glad I'm not wearing
any underwear.
That's perfect.
Yeah, you would want to take it
off if you were.
I'll check that out.
I had a good time doing the
source code yesterday.
I had a great...
It was funny.
It was so much shit.
I had a mask, so many clips and
bits and people just sending
all the content to close
stuff.
Well, that's what I said.
Yeah.
That's the milestone that you
've hit, basically, that got now
all this stuff coming at you.
So it's really becoming a
program.
It is, and it's funny.
And I love...
Go ahead.
No, that's all right.
I'm getting on to AIM right now
.
Okay, yeah, I see you there.
I'm going to drop this call,
and then I'll call you back on
AIM.
All right.
Okay.
So I just hung up, quitting
this X-Lite phone.
Okay, Dave just showed up on
the...
How come this X-Lite phone won
't go away?
It has to go away.
Go away.
Oh, I hate it when this happens
.
So I was just sitting there.
I'm going to try and get a hold
of Dave.
Okay.
Well, that other thing is just
sitting there with the spinning
beach ball of death.
Okay.
Calling in for...requesting the
setup for the call.
Ringing.
Okay.
You can answer anytime now.
Ah, there we go.
Yeah.
Oh, this is...
Oh, yeah, so much better, man.
You don't...
You have no idea.
Oh, good.
Yeah, it really is.
Steve Casey and say, "Hey, man,
you did good."
Your shit rocks, dude.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah, it was great stuff.
I love that WGBH Boston is a
perlute.
Yeah, he sent me a new one.
He sent me a new one today.
It's great.
All this evangelism.
I love the bit about how users
talk about RSS.
Yeah.
I mean, that's the payoff.
I mean, I so wanted to get out
of that mode where mostly what
I'm hearing from all
of the people who are, you know
, either the geeks who control
everybody else or the users
who are so intimidated by those
geeks that they have no
confidence in what they're
doing.
Right.
You know, those guys sound like
they sort of understood what
was going on and they just
used their own terms, words to
describe...
That was the Link Linux show.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I liked a bit about the NAB
and drive time and sort of
where this is going.
Oh, cool.
It was great.
Thank you.
Anyway, we had a leak, bonafide
leak yesterday.
And it appeared because of the
open source release plus a
pointer to the audio blog post
that I did that discusses the
release and why we did it and
why we, you know, did it
the way we did it and what the
product is and so forth.
That ended up getting pointed
to by Scott Young on the USEL
AND Weblog.
And so he said he heard about
it from Steve Kirk.
Yeah.
Steve Kirk said he heard about
it from you.
Well, wait a minute.
What audio...
Did we discuss this in an audio
...
Yeah, we discussed this in a
trade secrets didn't we?
Oh, the trade secrets is fine.
It was the one that I had
pointed to from the Frontier
Colonel mail list which was
embargoed
until today.
Now it's released.
It's not a big deal if you did
point to it from your site.
Of course.
It wasn't a high...
But why would I point to it?
Hold on.
I mean, if I hardly do blog
posts anymore, if I had done a
blog post, I would have
remembered.
No, I believe you.
Adam, Adam.
No, but I saw the email thread.
I'm like, well, but why did I
...
Let me just...
Let me go back, Dave.
Let me just see if...
I believe you.
First of all, let me just say,
I wouldn't say I believe you if
I didn't believe you.
Of course.
It's just a puzzle.
And then next time, I mean, I
did put a disclaimer.
I said, whoever told Scott
about it probably didn't pass
that on.
That it was not to be treated
as a public thing and whatever.
It's water under the bridge.
But that's just how it appeared
.
But I'm...
No doubt it's done either,
because Andre did make some
changes after the fact, but not
major ones.
I found it.
You found what?
Oh, shit.
Well, yes or no.
You're not going to believe me.
Oh, this is fucking classic.
Oh, okay.
I get it.
So on the Frontier Colonel list
, you posted a link to a...
was it a Manila website with
the source code?
No.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
So what did I do?
I went, oh, okay.
That's handy.
And I immediately subscribed to
it in my aggregator.
Remember what happens when I
subscribe to something in my
aggregator?
I got posted to my web blog.
I'm sorry.
Adam, you need to be more
careful about that.
Oh, no shit.
That was...
That's a big mistake.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
Listen, okay.
Don't sweat too much, because
we were doing this low security
mode anyway.
If we really wanted high
security, it would have been
editors on the site, and you
would
have needed a password for
anybody, even access the RSS.
They would have needed a
password.
So we were kind of playing
loose there, and that's okay.
Just, you know...
I apologize.
That was dumb.
You don't need to apologize.
No, there's a lesson.
Security is something you have
to constantly be vigilant about
, and you will someday subscribe
to something that's
confidential.
You will somehow need to think
about that in terms of how
public you are.
Although, what did you say on
the blog about secrets?
But was this a...
Well, yeah.
Considering the title of this
show, I guess you're right.
But was that a problem with
user land, or the fact that
they didn't know?
No, they knew, of course.
The problem is this, is that
when you're staging a release,
basically, you want to check
out
things with people before you
actually release it so that you
don't have to support anything
that's broken in the future.
Because if something's broken,
you can fix it and only it's
very slow and the virtual
habit.
If the thing leaks, then of
course there's possibility that
people are using a bad version
of the software.
So in general, you don't talk
about things that are in the
process of being released
until the developer says it's
okay to talk about it.
You know about that.
Of course I do.
And you also want your big "oh
wow" moment.
You don't want to...
Not in this case.
No.
Not in this case.
No.
We're setting the expectations
low, very deliberately, tough
releasing this thing.
We don't want people to feel
like the Earth Shake shook.
Because what eventually,
inevitably happens if they do,
is a lot more results and it
attracts
the slaps, daughters.
They come tell you why you're
...
How much you suck.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Exactly.
And that kills all the...
Build a mentor.
You want to build energy.
Yeah.
You don't want to expect a big
bang.
Because it can't happen anyway.
This is a very large piece of
software.
Nobody's going to be able to
make a contribution to it
immediately.
It's going to take...
If you were completely up to
speed on the kernel source code
, as I am and a few other
people are, we won't be ready
to release new things for quite
a few months, if ever.
So...
So what's the process now?
What's the process now?
Is it just making sure it
builds and then going back
through stuff?
And that's what I've been
seeing on the list.
Yeah, right now it's paranoid.
Did we release any horribly
broken software?
We want this...
What we release today, we want
that to be a solid foundation
for future development.
We don't want to take any steps
backwards.
In other words, you know, one
source file got left out or
something, or an old version.
This is far more common, an old
version of some source file.
Before 18,000 bugs were fixed.
Yeah.
It gets released and we lose
all...
You've had that happen, right?
Where you saved an old version
on top of a new version.
That was one of my finest hours
.
Yeah.
Well, we do that all the time.
That's what programming is all
about.
They teach you that in school.
Let's get that out of the way.
The first class is WeShut101.
Great.
I mean, that's the Murphy Law.
You're tuning into it.
I've heard you, your daily
source code, go into depth on
that about how you can predict
success or else God will get
you for that, right?
Yeah, always.
Always, always, always.
So what the hell are you doing
up so early, Dave?
I see this more often.
I see you awake at like three
in the morning.
I'm thinking like, what's up
with that?
My schedule is all fucked up.
It's like, it's totally...
My schedule is just, you know,
whatever.
I sleep when I want to sleep.
I live in the middle of the
city now.
It's really something.
This place is operating right
now.
It's not like New York, but it
's...
I could go out and get coffee
right now if I wanted to.
Right.
He gets some food, you know.
It's like, whatever.
It's a city.
I don't know.
I'm getting ready to live on
European time.
I think I'm going to come to
Europe after this.
Really?
I don't know.
After this is what?
After BloggerCon or just next
year?
Yeah.
Okay.
After BloggerCon, after Seattle
, you know.
Right.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Well, we'll be in England by
then, I hope.
You will.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
We're going to be...
We're moving in December.
In fact, Friday, we're...
Patricia and I are going over
there.
We're going to do all
measurements and shit.
We've got to try and figure out
how we put our stuff into our
new stuff receptacle.
Oh, yeah.
Right.
That's funny.
So, yeah.
How big is this?
Is this a castle, too?
No.
It's... we definitely wanted
something smaller.
We've had... let's see.
We've had two huge houses, one
on the canal in Amsterdam.
We have the castle and we have
... and we have a lot of people
running around doing stuff
and cleaning stuff and mowing
stuff.
Yeah.
We have a saying in Amsterdam.
It's an old Yiddish saying and
I'll say it in Dutch first.
"Eggvent u veil personeel" and
that translates to "I wish you
many employees."
Yeah.
And so that's one thing... we
're just really tired of it, you
know?
Yeah.
That's my story.
I mean, we are really tired of
it.
Tired of just people in your
space.
I love these people.
They're great, but you know, it
's still people in your space.
No, you don't.
You don't love them.
They work for you and that's a
very different relationship
from love.
I mean...
Right, but they're in our
personal love space being the
house.
And they're taking up your love
space.
Yes.
They suck up energy.
They suck up lots of energy.
Oh yeah.
That's what all people do.
And it's not your fault.
No, no, no.
Absolutely not.
You hired them.
You created the jobs with them.
This is the myth about making
it and getting rich.
Thank you.
Oh, thank you.
You're so right.
What you find out is that money
simply buys you distance.
It buys you to be more distant
from everybody else.
And part of the way it does it
is by throwing all these people
into your life that suck
up all the energy that you can
't have now for friends and
family.
You are so right.
You can't hang out with people
who are at toys with you.
These people are hanging out
with you because you pay them.
Yeah.
There's a big difference.
But they get confused as well.
They get confused.
I've had many people who work
for us who felt like they could
pretty much become a member
of the family.
Right.
And you get into really tough
situations.
But besides all that, and of
course what happened with us, I
don't know, I'm sure that it
had
an effect.
I know that it had an effect on
you was when Patricia got her
angina pectris, her heart
disease.
We said, "Fuck this.
Why spend one more second on
anybody or anything that we don
't really want to do?"
Yeah.
That's a basic question, isn't
it?
Right?
And that's very important.
And at the end of the day, I
mean-
You can spend one second on it.
I think both of our listeners
know that we, both of us are
either, let's say, rich or
certainly very comfortable.
And I haven't spent more than $
50 off we got anything.
You have such a perception of
what wealth is all about and
what it's going to bring
you.
And in the past month, I have
had more fun in four years time
just by sitting here fucking
around with people I've never
met before until, of course, we
met online, just plugging wires
and shit together.
But all the conversations that
have been going on has been
very enriching for me.
Yeah, I can tell that.
I mean, you said it in your
thing yesterday that it was
like the days when it was K-101
or WZ-101.
WH, yeah, Z-100.
The radio station.
Yeah.
Z-100, right.
I mean, the times of growth are
incredible.
They don't come, you know, this
is one of those times,
basically.
You know, I just sort of feel
like BloggerCon is not on that
track for me, though.
It's weird.
Really?
You know, this is like third
BloggerCon and now it's no
longer all that.
I mean, a lot of, well, by the
way, thank you for writing the
description.
I appreciate that.
Yeah, was that kind of what you
were looking for?
I don't know.
It's up to you, really.
I mean, the point is, what do
you want in that session?
It's really your stick.
I mean, my job is to get you to
pay attention to some very
basic ground rules, you know?
No commercialism, keep the
discussion going, you know, don
't allow people to repeat
themselves.
Yeah.
You know, don't send people out
into the hallway, please.
I've heard that from some, I've
now been talking with, I've
talked with maybe about
half of the discussion leaders
now.
And I hear that.
And I say, well, you know, one
of the things I do is that if
somebody, you know, doesn't
want to talk, I tell them to go
out in the hallway and continue
to ask that because the
whole point here is I want the
discussion to stay in the room.
And of course, something they
really have to say, then let's
make space for them to
say it, you know?
If, you know, if they want to
break a rule, though, then ask
them not to break the rule.
Don't send them out of the room
.
I mean, you know, and after
that, it's really up to you
what you want to do with that.
Let me ask you a question, Dave
.
Let me ask you a question.
Did you work it out with Doug
Kay for the, certainly the, the
, the, the podcast of BloggerCon
,
if not direct live streaming
webcast?
No, not yet.
No, I haven't talked with him
at all.
What has to happen first is I
have to get down to Stanford
and then, you know, basically
have some conversations with
the, with people there about,
you know, just basically what's
there for us to use.
Doug's going to ask that
question first and, you know,
he's going to need to know that
answer and, you know, I don't
know the answer.
You know, I would prefer if we
could, you know, basically rely
as little as possible
on what's present there.
My experience with the last
BloggerCon was that because, I
think because we did that,
we didn't even end up, not only
did we have a webcast.
We didn't end up with
recordings.
We aren't MP3s on the Blogger
Con site from that conference.
The conference is lost.
Yeah, that's right.
And it does suck because it was
a lot of good shit that
happened there.
And, you know, instead of like,
you know, me as my, putting on
my IT hat here, you know,
I was like, what are good
strategies?
These guys talk about
strategies and, you know, there
really is a strategy.
This stuff is like, okay, do
you aim low?
You know, if you aim low and
with a higher probability of
success, then I would, I think
that I would prefer to do that.
In other words, would I trade
off the webcast against a
higher probability that we
actually
end up with a, you know, MP3
for each subject?
Oh, totally.
Oh, I would, I would totally
trade that off.
Right.
So we're in agreement on that.
Oh, totally.
I would say, yeah.
Right.
So, okay, so let's work this
through.
So then the question really is,
first of all, can we get
somebody in each room with a
laptop
and a microphone and the
ability to record?
Okay.
Number one.
Number two, and I think that we
probably could do that.
Okay.
We probably could organize that
well enough.
Yeah.
Certainly, the people that are
coming to your session.
Well, all we really need for
the other rooms, Dave, is, you
know, if we can supply the
microphones,
you know, if we have, like,
four rooms or five rooms, if we
have a mic in each room with
a mini three and a half inch
jack on one end, then almost
anyone in that room will be
able
to record the session for us.
Right.
That's my point, you know.
And, and then, you know, and
then having somebody who's very
good with, you know, with a
notebook
and writing down the names and,
and then pulling teeth to get
the recordings out of the
people,
because, you know, as much as,
this is, I talked to Scoble
about this and have you ever
run
a conference?
Yeah.
One of the things that running
a conference teaches you is
that you, you spend a lot of
time just asking over and over
and over and over again for the
things you need.
And people just don't want to
do it.
So that's probably, you know,
the problem was that Jay
McCarthy's house burned down.
Oh, shit.
That's why we don't have, yeah,
yeah.
Oh, man.
That's why we don't have the MP
3s.
I mean, yeah.
We had MP3s, but they burned in
the fire?
No, that's not what happened.
What happened was he got, he
got, he got busy doing other
things and couldn't babysit.
Oh, okay.
And, you know, twist arms to
get people to give them what
they needed.
And I sure didn't want to twist
his arm because fuck his house
just burned down.
I'm sorry.
You have to drop that.
I know you're out.
Well, you know, here's, here's
why I asked.
We've got to get our MP3s.
Here's, here's why I asked.
Because I know Doug could
certainly do it and I know he
would.
Of course, we wanted him to do
it for no money.
Yeah.
So I thought, why don't we,
hold on.
He sent me something that I
wanted to play.
Yeah, I mean, I would have Doug
.
Hello?
Ah, we're back.
Yeah.
Sorry.
I don't know what went wrong.
I would have Doug do it.
Here's the, yeah.
Yeah.
Listen, you listen to me?
Yeah.
I would have Doug do it and I
will if he wants to.
I mean, you know, Doug's a nice
guy and everything.
Yeah.
He's not politically, you know,
I'm worried.
It's like the Stanford thing
here is like, you know, it's, I
want to make sure that we're,
you know, in good solid ground
with them before adding any
other variables to it.
Yeah.
Because that's a whole other
side to it.
At Harvard, I was there.
I was on site.
I knew people.
And even with that, okay, we
still had a bunch of meltdowns
on a sort of human level.
And you know, none of that
showed through in the
conference, I don't think.
And you know, it came off
pretty well, you know.
But you have that.
That happened.
And the thing I'm afraid of is
that we have that meltdown, but
I'm so far away that I
don't even know what happened.
And I don't have a rapport with
the people he's working with.
And then the conference gets
blown up, you know what I mean?
Right.
It all goes back to, you know,
setting your priorities.
I mean, could I do a blog or
come without a webcast?
Obviously.
Yeah, of course.
You did it, you know.
Yeah, we could do one without
it.
So I have to make sure that the
conference is, you know, we're
on, you know, because
the bigger problem I have for
the conference, and this is
going to be something I'm
probably
going to start within a few
days after I get a couple more
sessions announced is that we
're
going to raise some money.
And, you know, how much money
do we need?
It's a very, probably 25,000,
something like that.
Holy shit.
That's a lot of money.
Well, that's not much.
You think it's a lot of money.
I think we can raise that kind
of money.
I don't think it's a problem.
Sure.
That's what we spent at the
first two.
I mean, you know, it's
basically you have to pay for
some of the facilities, you
have
to pay for food.
If we want to have refreshments
, we're going to have to, we
have to pay for that.
Who underwrote that last time,
Dave?
It was a combination of things.
It was, some of it was from
donations from people who just
gave money like yourself.
You gave $1,000.
I gave $1,000.
Microsoft gave some money.
I don't remember the exact
amount.
Oh, Dave, all of a sudden, I
have a great idea.
We can do a pledge drive.
Yeah, we're going to do a
pledge drive.
Adam and Dave are going to stay
on there until we have $25,000.
Wow.
Yeah, then you're going to go
back to that Moroccan hash bar.
You should, when you come over
to Europe, you're going to hang
out with my buddies at
the, at Purple Rain in the
Moroccan hash bar.
They're cool, man.
You'll have a bar.
By the way, they were wrong.
You guys were wrong.
I mean, Bush and Kerry are not
the same thing.
I mean, Bush is, is depraved.
He really is evil, you know?
Somebody got, I heard this on
CNN yesterday.
This is really right on.
They were doing some Arab guy
and they were talking about, he
was like Iraqi or Jordanian
or something like that.
He was very smart.
And you know, the problem is
that you got these assholes
running around like, what's
the name of the guy who keeps
cutting people's heads off?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was just, it was just, it
was just way mean, whatever.
Yeah, this guy, I know what you
mean.
Yeah.
Mr. fucking asshole.
Yeah.
People's heads off.
Yeah, this is not a nice guy.
And then you've got, but then
you've got George Bush who's
laughing about the whole thing.
I mean, that's what he's doing.
And all of the Republican
talking points are, get on the
air and laugh at whoever is
saying
that you're fucking up.
Just laugh at them.
And it is the most horrible
thing to listen to these guys.
They're really good at it and
they're really nasty.
And the other guys just won't
stoop that low.
I mean, it's like the Democrats
just sitting there, scratching
their asses, going, we can't
be that depraved.
We're just not that bad.
That's true.
But is it effective?
Is this strategy effective?
That's why the Republicans are
winning.
I mean, the Republicans are
winning because the people don
't know who's telling the truth.
And they've managed to sort of
like, you know, put so much
doubt on that that, you know,
people
just, so it really is important
, I think, that people vote for
John Kerrick.
Yeah.
Hello.
Yeah, I'm gonna be there.
Yeah, it's not the same thing.
I think we have a lot bigger
holes to dig out of if we relic
this.
But yeah.
Oh, I know.
I totally agree.
But I think the point that we
came up with is, can you hear
me, Dave?
Hello?
Yeah, I'm here.
Yeah, I hear you.
I hear you fine over here.
Okay.
The point that we hit on is
that in government, it's so
intertwined with so many
conflicts
of interest and so much shit
that, and, you know, Kerry will
bring some of that with him
too, but I do agree.
Hello?
Yes.
There must be something wrong
with your computer, Dave.
I hear you fine.
Ding, ding, ding.
What is, what is wrong here?
What is the problem on?
I hear you perfectly.
Oh, I did hear you perfectly.
You can hear me?
Yeah.
Oh, wait.
You can't hear me.
Hello?
What's going on?
Okay, why am, why, why are you
not, why are you not, why are
you not, why are you not
here at me?
Uh, this is weird.
Uh, hello?
Hello?
Yeah.
Can you hear me?
Maybe we can try, yeah, I can
kind of hear you.
You can hear that one.
You can't hear that either, huh
?
I can hear you fine now.
You feel, you're sounding very
good.
Okay, but you, you should be
able to hear this.
Yeah.
I don't know what it is I'm
supposed to be hearing.
Do you hear me now?
Hello?
Okay, I can hear you fine.
Well, hold on a second.
I hate it when this happens.
Okay, now, can you hear me?
I, I hear, oh yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, man.
Then we're good to go.
I'm going to play you some
music now.
You're going to play me some
music?
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm going to play you some
music now.
Yup.
They did.
You forgot something.
Yeah.
You know what I forgot?
What?
It's 3am here.
And you just turned it up to
like Max and everyone's
chilling out?
Oh yeah, you're chilling
alright.
Yeah, you sent me a link to
that.
What was up with that?
Is that your song of the day?
Like, I was just moving into
that song.
I just thought it was like, wow
.
Have you heard the New Prince
album?
No, I'm still catching up on
the old ones.
Oh man, hold on.
You got to check this out.
This will kill you.
This is new album Musicology?
Good.
What?
I got to ask him a couple of
questions.
We got to get him on the show
here.
He'll come on.
Check this out, dude.
Check this out.
This is from Musicology.
Ooh, that's funky.
It's completely old school.
Yeah, it's completely old
school Prince.
[music]
Yeah, it's cool.
[music]
That's like James Brown.
Oh well, totally James Brown.
[music]
His shit is, it rocks so hard.
He's really, really good.
Yeah.
I mean, how many other, like,
how much more music do you need
?
I mean, that's sort of like...
Besides Prince?
It's Prince and that, you know,
it won't...
Listen, I'm really, you know,
this thing's coming in and out.
I can't hear anything right now
.
I don't know if you can hear me
.
Yeah, I can hear you, no
problem.
Yeah, there must be something.
Your machine is messed up, dude
.
[music]
All right, well listen.
What else do we want to talk
about at 3AM?
Not in your talk.
You know, if you can hear me, I
'm thinking about buying a new
computer just for this.
Yeah, buy a Mac.
Buy a Mac.
I can't hear anything.
Buy a Mac.
Did you hear me?
Hold on.
I heard you say, "Did you hit?"
I said, "Buy a Mac."
Oh, buy a Mac.
Why would I want to do that?
But you said Macs have the same
problem.
What?
This is so horrible.
I thought you said that Macs
have the same problem.
Oh, you can hear me now again?
Yeah.
Not as bad.
I can read what you're writing.
I can't hear you.
You can hear me fine.
No problem.
No problem at all.
So I should just talk.
What do I want to say?
Well, yeah.
Boy, I would really like to get
a computer that works.
That's what I want to say.
Listen, if you can't hear me,
this is going to be useless.
I'll tell you what.
This is funny that Steve Gil
more said he really enjoyed all
of our trials and tribulations
trying to get that shit to work
the other day.
Yeah, I'm going to tell you
what.
I'm going to tell you what.
Right?
Okay.
That's it everybody.
We'll catch you next time on
trade secrets.
Let's get the fuck out of here.
Bye bye everybody.
It's trade secrets.
Throw 'em up.
It's trade secrets now.
The doobiest cruise gun beats
for you.
It's trade secrets.
Trade secrets.
These heads will finally beep
this.
Trade secrets.
You don't need commerce
speakers.
Trade secrets.
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