WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:10.000 [MUSIC] 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:13.960 >> I am. 00:00:13.960 --> 00:00:15.280 >> Dude, it's working. 00:00:15.280 --> 00:00:17.560 >> What's really funny is that 00:00:17.560 --> 00:00:19.000 I didn't answer the phone 00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:19.800 though. 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:20.640 >> You didn't answer the phone? 00:00:20.640 --> 00:00:21.240 >> That's number one. 00:00:21.240 --> 00:00:22.480 >> What do you mean? 00:00:22.480 --> 00:00:24.310 >> I don't know, it's just rag 00:00:24.310 --> 00:00:25.680 and all of a sudden you were 00:00:25.680 --> 00:00:26.440 talking. 00:00:26.440 --> 00:00:27.720 >> Okay, I'll take it. 00:00:27.720 --> 00:00:28.920 >> That was cool. 00:00:28.920 --> 00:00:30.220 Number one, number two, here's 00:00:30.220 --> 00:00:31.480 the other weird thing. 00:00:31.480 --> 00:00:32.560 I can hear you through my 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:34.090 headphones, but I can't hear me 00:00:34.090 --> 00:00:36.000 through my headphones. 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:37.580 Which is all right, I just sort 00:00:37.580 --> 00:00:38.640 of believe. 00:00:38.640 --> 00:00:39.890 I just sort of believe if you 00:00:39.890 --> 00:00:42.420 can hear me, then you'll be 00:00:42.420 --> 00:00:43.280 fine and 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:44.480 I don't need to hear myself. 00:00:44.480 --> 00:00:45.860 >> Yeah, it's okay because I'm 00:00:45.860 --> 00:00:46.640 actually, hold on. 00:00:46.640 --> 00:00:48.810 >> So now do I get some of that 00:00:48.810 --> 00:00:50.360 cool reverb too? 00:00:50.360 --> 00:00:54.520 >> Here's the bum bummer. 00:00:54.520 --> 00:00:56.210 Shit, this is really hard, hold 00:00:56.210 --> 00:00:56.560 on. 00:00:56.560 --> 00:00:57.160 >> What happened? 00:00:57.320 --> 00:01:01.560 >> It's delaying a little bit. 00:01:01.560 --> 00:01:02.400 Hold on, that's better. 00:01:02.400 --> 00:01:03.320 Well, maybe if I don't. 00:01:03.320 --> 00:01:06.200 I see it's coming back now. 00:01:06.200 --> 00:01:06.960 >> Back now. 00:01:06.960 --> 00:01:08.720 >> I see the problem. 00:01:08.720 --> 00:01:10.330 >> We got a loop go in there, 00:01:10.330 --> 00:01:10.800 huh? 00:01:10.800 --> 00:01:12.120 I can hear myself now. 00:01:12.120 --> 00:01:13.240 >> I can hear myself now. 00:01:13.240 --> 00:01:14.540 >> Yeah, you don't want- >> Wow 00:01:14.540 --> 00:01:15.280 , wow, wow. 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:17.430 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, 00:01:17.430 --> 00:01:18.440 whoa, whoa. 00:01:18.440 --> 00:01:20.920 We had that kind of delay once 00:01:20.920 --> 00:01:23.680 during a webcast at Harvard and 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:25.740 we were able to sing row, row, 00:01:25.740 --> 00:01:27.920 row your boat with ourselves. 00:01:27.920 --> 00:01:29.290 You know, like a little round 00:01:29.290 --> 00:01:30.800 thing, the delay was that good. 00:01:30.800 --> 00:01:33.160 >> Really? 00:01:33.160 --> 00:01:34.640 >> Yeah, it was pretty funny. 00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:36.360 >> Okay, if I turn this down a 00:01:36.360 --> 00:01:36.840 bit. 00:01:36.840 --> 00:01:39.920 >> Boy, they really got zapped 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:41.320 and Haiti, you know. 00:01:41.320 --> 00:01:43.630 This hurricane, it's coming up, 00:01:43.630 --> 00:01:44.360 it's really- 00:01:44.360 --> 00:01:46.280 >> Hold on a second, Dave. 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:48.920 >> Yeah. 00:01:48.920 --> 00:01:52.000 >> I just wanna set this up. 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:54.120 One, two, check one, two. 00:01:54.120 --> 00:01:55.160 Can you talk for a sec? 00:01:55.160 --> 00:01:58.160 >> I can talk for a sec. 00:01:58.160 --> 00:01:59.160 >> Yeah, okay. 00:01:59.160 --> 00:02:00.350 >> Hello, this is Dr. Dave 00:02:00.350 --> 00:02:01.560 coming. 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:03.140 >> It was so cool, and then 00:02:03.140 --> 00:02:04.000 Doug Kay, I'm gonna play 00:02:04.000 --> 00:02:05.960 do that on my next source code. 00:02:05.960 --> 00:02:07.850 Doug Kay came back with the 00:02:07.850 --> 00:02:09.320 correction on the settings Dr. 00:02:09.320 --> 00:02:10.960 Dave advised. 00:02:10.960 --> 00:02:12.720 Yeah, it was perfect, it was so 00:02:12.720 --> 00:02:13.400 perfect. 00:02:13.400 --> 00:02:16.200 Did you hear the Gilmore gang? 00:02:16.200 --> 00:02:17.160 >> I haven't yet. 00:02:17.160 --> 00:02:19.230 >> Oh, dude, they're all over 00:02:19.230 --> 00:02:20.080 iPodder. 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:21.160 >> Really, good. 00:02:21.160 --> 00:02:22.750 >> Yeah, and of course some of 00:02:22.750 --> 00:02:22.920 the guys- 00:02:22.920 --> 00:02:24.150 >> Finally, finally, finally, 00:02:24.150 --> 00:02:24.480 finally, 00:02:24.480 --> 00:02:25.610 they have some technology to 00:02:25.610 --> 00:02:26.200 talk about. 00:02:26.200 --> 00:02:27.400 >> It really, and then one of 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:27.920 the guys says, 00:02:27.920 --> 00:02:30.380 you know, Adam Curry, the ex VH 00:02:30.380 --> 00:02:32.520 1 VJ, I'm like, oh fuck. 00:02:32.520 --> 00:02:34.250 That hurt, man, it fucking hurt 00:02:34.250 --> 00:02:34.480 . 00:02:34.480 --> 00:02:35.520 >> You're getting old, you're 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:36.080 getting old. 00:02:36.080 --> 00:02:37.560 >> That sucks. 00:02:37.560 --> 00:02:39.800 >> You're ass stags, literally, 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:41.120 as they say those words. 00:02:41.120 --> 00:02:42.880 >> Oh, Dave. 00:02:42.880 --> 00:02:44.270 May the hair god punish you 00:02:44.270 --> 00:02:45.000 even more. 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:46.160 >> [LAUGH] 00:02:46.160 --> 00:02:47.400 >> Shit. 00:02:47.400 --> 00:02:48.970 >> Listen, worse than it could 00:02:48.970 --> 00:02:49.440 be worse, 00:02:49.440 --> 00:02:50.990 I just saw a thing on Donald 00:02:50.990 --> 00:02:51.600 Trump. 00:02:51.600 --> 00:02:53.000 >> No kidding. 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:54.100 >> And they had a picture of 00:02:54.100 --> 00:02:55.280 him 20 years ago, 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:56.720 and he actually looked pretty 00:02:56.720 --> 00:02:57.160 good. 00:02:57.160 --> 00:02:59.240 >> [LAUGH] 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:00.340 >> Back in the day, yeah, the 00:03:00.340 --> 00:03:02.000 Donald was looking good. 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:03.640 >> Yeah, exactly, well, he was 00:03:03.640 --> 00:03:05.600 in New York icon in the 80s. 00:03:05.600 --> 00:03:06.920 >> Yep. 00:03:06.920 --> 00:03:08.480 I was living in New York during 00:03:08.480 --> 00:03:08.760 the 80s. 00:03:08.760 --> 00:03:09.500 >> I know, that's why I 00:03:09.500 --> 00:03:10.080 mentioned it. 00:03:10.080 --> 00:03:11.530 I know, I think if you watch 00:03:11.530 --> 00:03:12.080 that show, 00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:14.370 you may get a glimpse of your 00:03:14.370 --> 00:03:15.040 future. 00:03:15.040 --> 00:03:16.240 >> Gee, thanks, Dave. 00:03:16.240 --> 00:03:16.920 >> No, that's all right. 00:03:16.920 --> 00:03:18.290 Well, he's a very innovative 00:03:18.290 --> 00:03:19.280 guy, don't you think? 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:20.680 >> I think I'm extremely 00:03:20.680 --> 00:03:21.600 innovative. 00:03:21.600 --> 00:03:23.160 >> Yeah, and he is too, though. 00:03:23.160 --> 00:03:25.640 >> [LAUGH] 00:03:25.640 --> 00:03:27.470 >> It's funny because I'm 00:03:27.470 --> 00:03:29.520 exactly in the middle age-wise 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:30.720 between the two of you. 00:03:30.720 --> 00:03:31.560 >> Yeah, how old is Trump? 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:32.760 Is he 60? 00:03:32.760 --> 00:03:34.200 >> He's 10 years older than me. 00:03:34.200 --> 00:03:35.480 >> Yes, he's 59. 00:03:35.480 --> 00:03:36.640 >> 59, yeah. 00:03:36.640 --> 00:03:38.800 And you're just turning 40. 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:40.800 >> Yeah. 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:42.080 >> He's still got a ways to go 00:03:42.080 --> 00:03:43.160 before you're old. 00:03:43.160 --> 00:03:45.240 >> Man, I tell you. 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:46.860 So, okay, you said the reason 00:03:46.860 --> 00:03:48.480 we're recording this, you ch 00:03:48.480 --> 00:03:48.880 atted me. 00:03:48.880 --> 00:03:51.000 You chatted me up, you bitch. 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:51.680 >> Yeah. 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:52.800 >> You chatted me up and said 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:54.660 that there's a VP debate 00:03:54.660 --> 00:03:55.680 tomorrow. 00:03:55.680 --> 00:03:57.070 >> Yeah, I just heard this, 00:03:57.070 --> 00:03:58.880 that we're on the eve of the VP 00:03:58.880 --> 00:03:59.400 debate. 00:03:59.400 --> 00:04:00.690 I have to go look into this, 00:04:00.690 --> 00:04:02.880 but that could be just as good 00:04:02.880 --> 00:04:04.360 in many ways as the debate 00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:07.360 between Kerry and Bush because 00:04:07.360 --> 00:04:10.400 Cheney is kind of an asshole. 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:12.240 >> [LAUGH] 00:04:12.240 --> 00:04:13.960 >> Okay, just kind of. 00:04:13.960 --> 00:04:15.750 >> Well, it's kind of, I'm sure 00:04:15.750 --> 00:04:17.240 his wife doesn't think she, 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:18.120 well, maybe she does. 00:04:18.120 --> 00:04:19.360 >> Yeah, you don't know. 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:20.850 >> Yeah, it could be, so that 00:04:20.850 --> 00:04:22.280 could be kind of interesting. 00:04:22.280 --> 00:04:24.030 But I thought it would be fun 00:04:24.030 --> 00:04:25.800 to have people, if we could 00:04:25.800 --> 00:04:26.840 swing it technically, 00:04:26.840 --> 00:04:29.530 to have people be able to call 00:04:29.530 --> 00:04:32.640 in during the debate. 00:04:32.640 --> 00:04:34.450 Cuz we'd all have something we 00:04:34.450 --> 00:04:36.170 could watch at the same time 00:04:36.170 --> 00:04:36.840 and something to 00:04:36.840 --> 00:04:37.480 respond to. 00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:38.850 So that way, if you and I 00:04:38.850 --> 00:04:41.060 happen to miss one of the lies 00:04:41.060 --> 00:04:42.880 that Bush was telling, 00:04:42.880 --> 00:04:43.920 we're gonna overlook the ones 00:04:43.920 --> 00:04:45.120 that Kerry tells, of course. 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:45.640 >> Of course. 00:04:45.640 --> 00:04:47.000 >> Of course. 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:49.240 >> [LAUGH] 00:04:49.240 --> 00:04:50.840 >> If we have to catch a lie or 00:04:50.840 --> 00:04:52.030 miss one, then somebody else 00:04:52.030 --> 00:04:52.800 might catch it. 00:04:52.800 --> 00:04:53.690 It's sort of like, they can 00:04:53.690 --> 00:04:53.720 catch it. 00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:55.190 >> Okay, but the problem here 00:04:55.190 --> 00:04:58.880 with the call in is that, gee, 00:04:58.880 --> 00:04:59.880 boy. 00:04:59.880 --> 00:05:00.920 >> Maybe that's pushing it. 00:05:00.920 --> 00:05:02.170 That sounds like it's pushing 00:05:02.170 --> 00:05:02.440 it. 00:05:02.440 --> 00:05:03.600 >> Well, no, no. 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:04.550 I mean, what I'd like to do is, 00:05:04.550 --> 00:05:05.600 first I'd like to see if we can 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:07.600 even get our 00:05:07.600 --> 00:05:09.300 audio synced up, cuz there 00:05:09.300 --> 00:05:11.080 could be a significant delay 00:05:11.080 --> 00:05:12.120 between what you get 00:05:12.120 --> 00:05:13.510 from CNN and what I get from 00:05:13.510 --> 00:05:14.700 CNN, which will also make it 00:05:14.700 --> 00:05:15.400 interesting. 00:05:15.400 --> 00:05:17.430 But I wanna try and stick to 00:05:17.430 --> 00:05:20.180 all the known factors before we 00:05:20.180 --> 00:05:21.000 go. 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:22.150 >> Well, how much of a delay do 00:05:22.150 --> 00:05:23.240 you think there would be? 00:05:23.240 --> 00:05:26.120 >> Well, I've seen satellite 00:05:26.120 --> 00:05:28.040 delays of many, many seconds. 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:28.960 >> Really? 00:05:28.960 --> 00:05:30.090 >> Yeah, come on, hold on a 00:05:30.090 --> 00:05:30.960 second, Dave, what baby? 00:05:30.960 --> 00:05:32.120 >> [INAUDIBLE] 00:05:32.120 --> 00:05:33.390 >> Yeah, I've been if and on 00:05:33.390 --> 00:05:34.160 Bella. 00:05:34.160 --> 00:05:35.320 >> Ate a nuclear? 00:05:35.320 --> 00:05:37.320 >> [INAUDIBLE] 00:05:37.320 --> 00:05:38.640 >> Is that snacks or is it a- 00:05:38.640 --> 00:05:40.920 >> [INAUDIBLE] 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:42.440 >> I was just served my 00:05:42.440 --> 00:05:43.960 Saturday snack, thank you dear. 00:05:43.960 --> 00:05:47.440 >> [INAUDIBLE] 00:05:47.440 --> 00:05:49.470 >> Okay, I'm talking to Dave, 00:05:49.470 --> 00:05:50.200 the one you laugh so 00:05:50.200 --> 00:05:50.800 loud about? 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:52.120 >> [INAUDIBLE] 00:05:52.120 --> 00:05:54.000 >> Why did she laugh at me or 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:54.400 with me? 00:05:54.400 --> 00:05:55.590 >> No, she was laughing at your 00:05:55.590 --> 00:05:56.440 Bush commentary. 00:05:56.440 --> 00:05:56.960 >> Yeah. 00:05:56.960 --> 00:05:57.560 >> Really? 00:05:57.560 --> 00:05:59.250 >> Yeah, she cracked up when 00:05:59.250 --> 00:06:00.480 you said he's lying like a 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:01.160 motherfucker. 00:06:01.160 --> 00:06:02.360 >> [LAUGH] 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:03.520 >> Cracked up. 00:06:03.520 --> 00:06:04.820 >> I felt like we were doing a 00:06:04.820 --> 00:06:06.440 golf show or something. 00:06:06.440 --> 00:06:07.820 >> It was great, it was perfect 00:06:07.820 --> 00:06:08.000 . 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:09.280 >> [LAUGH] 00:06:09.280 --> 00:06:10.290 >> But that's exactly what it's 00:06:10.290 --> 00:06:10.600 like. 00:06:10.600 --> 00:06:12.160 >> Yeah, I was like, okay, we 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:13.800 're watching President Bush here 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:14.200 in the Rose Garden. 00:06:14.200 --> 00:06:16.280 And he's taking out a three 00:06:16.280 --> 00:06:17.720 club, a three wood. 00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:20.050 >> And he pulls up one every 00:06:20.050 --> 00:06:20.920 month. 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:21.640 >> [LAUGH] 00:06:21.640 --> 00:06:22.730 >> That's funny, I'm glad, I 00:06:22.730 --> 00:06:24.040 was entertained by two, it 00:06:24.040 --> 00:06:26.120 could be much better. 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:27.410 >> Rushland both did a 00:06:27.410 --> 00:06:29.400 wonderful job with Kerry, I was 00:06:29.400 --> 00:06:30.680 laughing out loud. 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:31.720 It was funny. 00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:33.480 >> Was that on the radio? 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:34.560 >> Yeah, it was on the radio. 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:36.210 >> Shit, I wish I could hear 00:06:36.210 --> 00:06:36.800 that. 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:38.650 >> Well, it's long gone, but I 00:06:38.650 --> 00:06:40.180 was in Pennsylvania on my 00:06:40.180 --> 00:06:40.520 beginning, 00:06:40.520 --> 00:06:41.640 my cross country drive. 00:06:41.640 --> 00:06:44.670 And I think he had recorded the 00:06:44.670 --> 00:06:46.320 Kerry speech. 00:06:46.320 --> 00:06:47.570 >> A lot of his stuff was 00:06:47.570 --> 00:06:48.360 recorded. 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:50.250 >> Yeah, and so he had it on 00:06:50.250 --> 00:06:52.770 this loop thing, and he would 00:06:52.770 --> 00:06:54.840 press the button and 00:06:54.840 --> 00:06:56.600 Kerry would say the thing. 00:06:56.600 --> 00:06:57.950 And then he'd go, I can't 00:06:57.950 --> 00:06:59.040 comment on this. 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:00.240 And then he would say, I have 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:00.960 to hit pause. 00:07:00.960 --> 00:07:02.480 >> [LAUGH] 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:03.310 >> That's what I do on the 00:07:03.310 --> 00:07:03.960 source code. 00:07:03.960 --> 00:07:05.120 >> That's fun. 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:06.120 >> And then he would, yeah, of 00:07:06.120 --> 00:07:07.810 course, then he would hit back 00:07:07.810 --> 00:07:08.360 space. 00:07:08.360 --> 00:07:10.000 And then he would play it again 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:10.080 . 00:07:10.080 --> 00:07:11.480 And he'd get angry all over it. 00:07:11.480 --> 00:07:12.520 >> [LAUGH] 00:07:12.520 --> 00:07:16.640 >> And he would blame Kerry for 00:07:16.640 --> 00:07:17.560 repeating himself, 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:18.650 which I thought was the most 00:07:18.650 --> 00:07:20.080 beautiful little thing he did. 00:07:20.080 --> 00:07:20.600 >> Yeah. 00:07:20.600 --> 00:07:21.590 >> Kerry actually wasn't 00:07:21.590 --> 00:07:22.520 repeating himself, 00:07:22.520 --> 00:07:23.880 he was just repeatedly playing 00:07:23.880 --> 00:07:25.120 the thing Kerry had said. 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:26.120 >> [LAUGH] 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:26.840 >> Exactly. 00:07:26.840 --> 00:07:28.640 >> Exactly. 00:07:28.640 --> 00:07:30.180 >> Well, but you want to do 00:07:30.180 --> 00:07:31.480 this live, right? 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:32.480 >> I don't know, I don't know 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:33.200 how I want to do it. 00:07:33.200 --> 00:07:34.510 I just think we ought to do 00:07:34.510 --> 00:07:35.840 more trade secrets things, 00:07:35.840 --> 00:07:37.350 because there's more stuff to 00:07:37.350 --> 00:07:38.800 talk about, number one. 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:40.330 >> Number two is I've been 00:07:40.330 --> 00:07:42.200 getting a universally very, 00:07:42.200 --> 00:07:44.180 very positive response from 00:07:44.180 --> 00:07:45.200 people about this. 00:07:45.200 --> 00:07:46.240 Yeah, they really like it. 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:49.160 Scobal, I had dinner with Rod 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:49.680 ney Scobal. 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:51.560 >> And we know his boss. 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:52.200 >> Oh yeah. 00:07:52.200 --> 00:07:54.920 >> [LAUGH] 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:56.240 >> Yep, and- 00:07:56.240 --> 00:07:57.640 >> What did he have to say? 00:07:57.640 --> 00:07:58.360 >> His boss? 00:07:58.360 --> 00:07:59.600 >> No, Scobal. 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:00.670 >> I don't know what his boss 00:08:00.670 --> 00:08:01.080 said. 00:08:01.080 --> 00:08:03.000 Scobal said, Scobal said, you 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:04.400 're gonna get a radio contract 00:08:04.400 --> 00:08:06.080 within two weeks. 00:08:06.080 --> 00:08:08.080 >> Well, you know what? 00:08:08.080 --> 00:08:12.150 It's very easy to perceive this 00:08:12.150 --> 00:08:13.680 being on the radio, 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:15.120 because it's what people want 00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:16.800 to listen to during drive time. 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:18.240 >> I like a mother tongue. 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:18.920 >> Hey, Christina. 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:19.720 >> I like a mother tongue. 00:08:19.720 --> 00:08:20.600 >> That's my daughter now 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:21.160 walking in. 00:08:21.160 --> 00:08:22.160 She's 14, thanks, Dave. 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:23.520 >> No, I swear it backwards. 00:08:23.520 --> 00:08:25.300 >> You've corrupted the youth 00:08:25.300 --> 00:08:26.200 of America. 00:08:26.200 --> 00:08:27.840 >> [LAUGH] 00:08:27.840 --> 00:08:28.560 >> Listen. 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:29.120 >> Damn. 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:30.240 >> He used words like, "How the 00:08:30.240 --> 00:08:31.000 fuck are we gonna be on the 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:31.840 radio?" 00:08:31.840 --> 00:08:33.840 >> Oh, that's a good point. 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:34.200 No. 00:08:34.200 --> 00:08:35.320 >> We have to stop using words 00:08:35.320 --> 00:08:35.920 like that. 00:08:35.920 --> 00:08:37.670 He's lying like somebody else's 00:08:37.670 --> 00:08:38.280 mother. 00:08:38.280 --> 00:08:39.400 >> Yeah, but see, then already 00:08:39.400 --> 00:08:40.400 it's not as fun. 00:08:40.400 --> 00:08:42.470 >> Of course, it's not gonna be 00:08:42.470 --> 00:08:43.400 as fun. 00:08:43.400 --> 00:08:45.050 >> So maybe we don't have to 00:08:45.050 --> 00:08:46.720 strive for a radio contract. 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:49.280 I think the massive amounts of 00:08:49.280 --> 00:08:51.400 iPods may do it for us. 00:08:51.400 --> 00:08:52.800 >> That's true, yeah. 00:08:52.800 --> 00:08:53.720 I heard the thing you were 00:08:53.720 --> 00:08:54.760 talking about with Orl. 00:08:54.760 --> 00:08:56.120 Was that Andrew Orlasky? 00:08:56.120 --> 00:08:58.050 Was that the same Andrew Orlask 00:08:58.050 --> 00:09:00.530 y that routinely trashes all the 00:09:00.530 --> 00:09:01.800 bloggers here? 00:09:01.800 --> 00:09:02.720 >> I have no idea. 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:03.830 I've never read any of his 00:09:03.830 --> 00:09:04.400 stuff, but 00:09:04.400 --> 00:09:06.170 I thought this was an amazing 00:09:06.170 --> 00:09:06.800 piece. 00:09:06.800 --> 00:09:09.240 >> It was, given what he said. 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:10.390 We have to figure out if this 00:09:10.390 --> 00:09:11.160 is the same guy. 00:09:11.160 --> 00:09:13.670 >> He's from Australia, I think 00:09:13.670 --> 00:09:13.680 ? 00:09:13.680 --> 00:09:15.900 >> Yeah, probably isn't the 00:09:15.900 --> 00:09:17.120 same guy then. 00:09:17.120 --> 00:09:17.880 >> Maybe that one. 00:09:17.880 --> 00:09:19.120 >> It was President, but it was 00:09:19.120 --> 00:09:19.120 - 00:09:19.120 --> 00:09:19.930 >> No, he's in the UK, I'm 00:09:19.930 --> 00:09:20.200 sorry. 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:21.360 He's in the UK. 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:22.520 >> That's the same Andrew. 00:09:22.520 --> 00:09:23.880 >> Okay, yeah. 00:09:23.880 --> 00:09:26.170 >> It was both President and 00:09:26.170 --> 00:09:28.360 ignorant at the same time. 00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:30.440 It was magnificent, both of 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:31.080 both. 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:32.590 I mean, he forecast what was 00:09:32.590 --> 00:09:34.000 actually going to happen, 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:35.570 except that his forecast was 00:09:35.570 --> 00:09:37.160 off by a few years, right? 00:09:37.160 --> 00:09:38.400 >> Five. 00:09:38.400 --> 00:09:39.560 >> Five, yeah. 00:09:39.560 --> 00:09:40.760 >> Yeah, he says iPods are 00:09:40.760 --> 00:09:42.150 going to fill themselves within 00:09:42.150 --> 00:09:43.240 five years, and 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:44.360 Apple won't build it, but 00:09:44.360 --> 00:09:45.320 someone else will. 00:09:45.320 --> 00:09:46.880 Yeah, dude, we did. 00:09:46.880 --> 00:09:49.840 Hope, I'm losing you, Dave. 00:09:49.840 --> 00:09:51.360 Are you there? 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:52.040 Hello? 00:09:52.040 --> 00:09:52.680 >> Yeah. 00:09:52.680 --> 00:09:54.200 >> Yeah, what happened there? 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:55.000 >> I don't know. 00:09:55.000 --> 00:09:56.410 >> Well, it's just a connection 00:09:56.410 --> 00:09:57.840 all of a sudden dropped out. 00:09:57.840 --> 00:09:59.190 >> Good, I thought I figured it 00:09:59.190 --> 00:10:00.880 was exactly six minutes. 00:10:00.880 --> 00:10:02.770 >> No, that's what your instant 00:10:02.770 --> 00:10:03.720 message was. 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:06.020 No, no, no, in fact, we're now 00:10:06.020 --> 00:10:07.840 10 minutes and 37 seconds. 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:09.200 Now I'm not too worried about 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:09.640 that. 00:10:09.640 --> 00:10:11.960 Here he comes, it's Murphy. 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:14.710 >> Yeah, hey, he's lying like a 00:10:14.710 --> 00:10:15.480 motherfucker. 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:17.080 >> Yeah, yeah. 00:10:17.080 --> 00:10:18.650 >> Excuse me, for those people 00:10:18.650 --> 00:10:19.880 who didn't listen to this, 00:10:19.880 --> 00:10:20.810 apparently this is going to 00:10:20.810 --> 00:10:21.200 actually- 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:21.980 >> You need to speak up a 00:10:21.980 --> 00:10:22.990 little bit, Dave, you're a 00:10:22.990 --> 00:10:23.840 little bit soft. 00:10:23.840 --> 00:10:25.360 >> Actually, it seems like this 00:10:25.360 --> 00:10:27.240 is actually going to make it to 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:28.690 like on the internet and stuff, 00:10:28.690 --> 00:10:29.000 right? 00:10:29.000 --> 00:10:30.400 >> About this? 00:10:30.400 --> 00:10:31.320 >> Yeah, of course. 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:32.990 >> Okay, so for the people 00:10:32.990 --> 00:10:34.520 listening at home, it's very 00:10:34.520 --> 00:10:35.080 important that you- 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:36.460 >> Or in your car or on your 00:10:36.460 --> 00:10:36.880 walk. 00:10:36.880 --> 00:10:37.560 >> In your car or walk. 00:10:37.560 --> 00:10:39.360 >> Or while you're exercising. 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:40.390 >> Or whatever it is that you 00:10:40.390 --> 00:10:40.920 're doing. 00:10:40.920 --> 00:10:41.760 >> It's plane spotting. 00:10:41.760 --> 00:10:43.680 >> Plane spotting. 00:10:43.680 --> 00:10:45.640 What are you eating? 00:10:45.640 --> 00:10:47.120 >> Look, this wasn't a planned 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:47.600 show. 00:10:47.600 --> 00:10:50.030 I'm eating, I have a nice 00:10:50.030 --> 00:10:52.440 avocado with shrimp. 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:54.650 I have some olives and I have 00:10:54.650 --> 00:10:57.070 some French bread with crab, 00:10:57.070 --> 00:11:00.040 cocktail stuff and 00:11:00.040 --> 00:11:02.110 peppers and it's a weekend at 00:11:02.110 --> 00:11:03.200 the castle. 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:05.100 >> The quality of my connection 00:11:05.100 --> 00:11:06.360 went really way down. 00:11:06.360 --> 00:11:07.920 >> No, I'm sorry. 00:11:07.920 --> 00:11:09.040 I'll stop eating that'll help. 00:11:09.040 --> 00:11:11.080 >> I think that- 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:11.880 >> Can you hear me? 00:11:11.880 --> 00:11:12.760 >> Yeah, I hear you fine. 00:11:12.760 --> 00:11:15.880 >> Can, really? 00:11:15.880 --> 00:11:17.000 Okay, it's funny. 00:11:17.000 --> 00:11:17.730 >> Maybe you have something 00:11:17.730 --> 00:11:18.830 running, maybe you got mail 00:11:18.830 --> 00:11:21.200 running or something and it's- 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:22.480 >> It's a swirling emotion. 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:23.260 >> You got something running in 00:11:23.260 --> 00:11:24.190 the background, maybe your 00:11:24.190 --> 00:11:25.120 email is sucking it in. 00:11:25.120 --> 00:11:27.800 >> I don't know. 00:11:27.800 --> 00:11:29.000 >> Okay, I can hear you fine. 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:31.600 >> All right, so what else are 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:33.990 we, yeah, so we just got an 00:11:33.990 --> 00:11:36.360 email from Andre Radka and 00:11:36.360 --> 00:11:37.720 you should be on the mail list 00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:39.250 now, the Frontier Colonel mail 00:11:39.250 --> 00:11:39.720 list. 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:41.030 >> Yeah, I signed up, you sent 00:11:41.030 --> 00:11:42.160 me the email, thanks. 00:11:42.160 --> 00:11:44.840 >> And so we've got the first 00:11:44.840 --> 00:11:46.920 sort of candidate, 00:11:46.920 --> 00:11:48.770 release candidate for the open 00:11:48.770 --> 00:11:50.680 source release of Frontier. 00:11:50.680 --> 00:11:51.980 >> Really, is it already 00:11:51.980 --> 00:11:52.800 available? 00:11:52.800 --> 00:11:55.200 >> Yeah. 00:11:55.200 --> 00:11:56.560 >> So what can I do with this? 00:11:56.560 --> 00:11:57.800 I can download it and do what? 00:11:57.800 --> 00:12:02.160 >> Okay, that was really 00:12:02.160 --> 00:12:03.840 bizarre the way that sounded. 00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:09.160 >> Robocopping, we call that. 00:12:09.160 --> 00:12:11.190 >> What was the name of that 00:12:11.190 --> 00:12:12.840 guy, that robotic- 00:12:12.840 --> 00:12:15.240 >> Max Headroom. 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:17.560 >> That's it, you sound just 00:12:17.560 --> 00:12:18.560 like Max Headroom. 00:12:18.560 --> 00:12:19.660 >> I look like him too at the 00:12:19.660 --> 00:12:20.120 moment. 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:21.200 >> How did you know? 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:22.480 >> Because, you know, it's like 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:23.760 we're on the same wavelength, 00:12:23.760 --> 00:12:24.440 Dave. 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:25.880 >> I'm touching the laptop, 00:12:25.880 --> 00:12:27.460 maybe it's actually the TCP/IP 00:12:27.460 --> 00:12:28.760 connection is 00:12:28.760 --> 00:12:29.800 sending brain waves. 00:12:29.800 --> 00:12:31.560 >> [LAUGH] 00:12:31.560 --> 00:12:32.720 >> It's possible. 00:12:32.720 --> 00:12:34.840 Okay, so the open source 00:12:34.840 --> 00:12:36.440 release of Frontier. 00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:37.640 >> So here's what you can do 00:12:37.640 --> 00:12:38.160 with it. 00:12:38.160 --> 00:12:39.800 I did understand the question, 00:12:39.800 --> 00:12:41.120 even if it did sound bizarre. 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:45.450 First of all, you have to have 00:12:45.450 --> 00:12:48.320 metroworks environment. 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:49.390 >> Code warrior, is that what 00:12:49.390 --> 00:12:49.720 that is? 00:12:49.720 --> 00:12:52.640 >> Code warrior, that's right. 00:12:52.640 --> 00:12:54.320 And they have it available for 00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:56.120 both Windows and for Macintosh, 00:12:56.120 --> 00:12:57.720 which are the two platforms 00:12:57.720 --> 00:12:59.160 that this code runs on. 00:12:59.160 --> 00:13:01.410 And then there are build 00:13:01.410 --> 00:13:03.880 instructions that actually, 00:13:03.880 --> 00:13:05.880 I think we still need to post 00:13:05.880 --> 00:13:08.150 those, but you can sort of 00:13:08.150 --> 00:13:09.440 figure it out. 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:11.720 And then what happens is, you 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:13.580 build it and it turns into 00:13:13.580 --> 00:13:14.720 Frontier.exe. 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:19.700 Then you, but however you can 00:13:19.700 --> 00:13:21.640 make changes to it before. 00:13:21.640 --> 00:13:24.240 And before you compile it. 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:27.170 So now you have the license to 00:13:27.170 --> 00:13:29.610 create your own like Frontier 00:13:29.610 --> 00:13:30.240 if you want to. 00:13:30.240 --> 00:13:32.470 >> And you could, you can use 00:13:32.470 --> 00:13:32.840 it to, 00:13:32.840 --> 00:13:34.510 how big is the kernel actually 00:13:34.510 --> 00:13:35.400 in file size? 00:13:35.400 --> 00:13:39.260 >> I don't know, I haven't 00:13:39.260 --> 00:13:40.040 looked in a while. 00:13:40.040 --> 00:13:41.440 Let's see. 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:42.390 You mean like when it's 00:13:42.390 --> 00:13:43.360 compiled, right? 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:45.750 >> Yeah, what size is the Front 00:13:45.750 --> 00:13:46.920 ier.exe? 00:13:46.920 --> 00:13:48.220 Yeah, how big is Frontier.exe 00:13:48.220 --> 00:13:49.240 when you compile it? 00:13:49.240 --> 00:13:50.360 >> We need to do another. 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:52.660 We need to, let's recreate this 00:13:52.660 --> 00:13:53.800 connection. 00:13:53.800 --> 00:13:55.080 I can't have a conversation 00:13:55.080 --> 00:13:55.680 this way. 00:13:55.680 --> 00:13:57.040 >> Okay, I'll call you back. 00:13:57.040 --> 00:13:58.200 >> Yeah, can you call me back? 00:13:58.200 --> 00:13:59.270 >> Yeah, I'd love to call you 00:13:59.270 --> 00:13:59.640 back. 00:13:59.640 --> 00:14:00.140 All right. 00:14:00.140 --> 00:14:08.400 >> Hello? 00:14:08.400 --> 00:14:09.590 >> Yeah, much faster than 00:14:09.590 --> 00:14:11.160 regular phone service, eh? 00:14:11.160 --> 00:14:12.320 >> My God. 00:14:12.320 --> 00:14:14.000 That was scary. 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:15.220 I mean, you sounded like you 00:14:15.220 --> 00:14:16.720 were crazy there at the end. 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:17.520 >> I am. 00:14:17.520 --> 00:14:19.840 >> I was, I was, I was, I was, 00:14:19.840 --> 00:14:22.760 I was delaying like brrrrr. 00:14:22.760 --> 00:14:23.920 Wait a minute, Christina, are 00:14:23.920 --> 00:14:25.040 you downloading something? 00:14:25.040 --> 00:14:27.040 >> No. 00:14:27.040 --> 00:14:27.960 >> We've got to check, you know 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:28.000 , 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:29.190 she got line wire running again 00:14:29.190 --> 00:14:29.360 . 00:14:29.360 --> 00:14:30.150 >> She's lying like a 00:14:30.150 --> 00:14:30.920 motherfucker. 00:14:30.920 --> 00:14:34.520 >> I have the headphones on, 00:14:34.520 --> 00:14:35.080 thank God. 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:36.080 She didn't hear that. 00:14:36.080 --> 00:14:37.720 >> Tell her what I said. 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:38.720 >> Dave said you're lying like 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:39.440 a motherfucker. 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:43.810 Now we get the, the, the 00:14:43.810 --> 00:14:46.120 teenager cold shoulder. 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:47.400 We don't get any, no response. 00:14:47.400 --> 00:14:49.740 She's on MSN talking to 8,000 00:14:49.740 --> 00:14:50.880 people at once. 00:14:50.880 --> 00:14:51.200 >> Really? 00:14:51.200 --> 00:14:51.720 >> Mm-hm. 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:52.240 >> Interesting. 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:53.880 >> Mm-hm. 00:14:53.880 --> 00:14:54.920 >> You're breaking up again. 00:14:54.920 --> 00:14:55.760 That's the whole thing is 00:14:55.760 --> 00:14:56.480 happening again. 00:14:56.480 --> 00:14:57.720 >> I can hear you fine. 00:14:57.720 --> 00:14:59.480 >> MSN. 00:14:59.480 --> 00:15:00.720 Yeah, well, we can't have a 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:01.840 discussion this way. 00:15:01.840 --> 00:15:04.090 >> But are you, but you must be 00:15:04.090 --> 00:15:05.560 running your mail client 00:15:05.560 --> 00:15:06.910 or something's running that you 00:15:06.910 --> 00:15:08.720 're going to have to shut off. 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:09.790 >> All right, all right, all 00:15:09.790 --> 00:15:10.560 right, hold on. 00:15:10.560 --> 00:15:10.920 >> Mm-hm. 00:15:10.920 --> 00:15:12.530 >> Let me just close the bunch 00:15:12.530 --> 00:15:13.280 of stuff now. 00:15:13.280 --> 00:15:14.680 All right, I'm closing AOL. 00:15:14.680 --> 00:15:16.280 I just closed, closed Norton An 00:15:16.280 --> 00:15:16.840 ivirus. 00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:18.160 That shirt uses up a lot. 00:15:18.160 --> 00:15:19.690 >> That'll, although I don't 00:15:19.690 --> 00:15:20.040 think, 00:15:20.040 --> 00:15:21.100 I don't think it was actually 00:15:21.100 --> 00:15:21.880 running though. 00:15:21.880 --> 00:15:24.320 Okay, so now I'm closing AIM. 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:24.840 >> Mm-hm. 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:26.720 >> All right, now I'm closing, 00:15:26.720 --> 00:15:28.290 I don't want to close Skype, no 00:15:28.290 --> 00:15:28.560 ? 00:15:28.560 --> 00:15:30.720 >> No, no, keep that running. 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:31.880 >> That would suck. 00:15:31.880 --> 00:15:32.840 >> Yeah, Skype would be the 00:15:32.840 --> 00:15:34.160 thing I would not want to quit. 00:15:34.160 --> 00:15:35.040 >> No. 00:15:35.040 --> 00:15:36.520 >> iTunes, that could be it. 00:15:36.520 --> 00:15:39.350 I, iTunes just wants itself 00:15:39.350 --> 00:15:40.520 whenever it feels like it, 00:15:40.520 --> 00:15:42.840 it really pisses me off. 00:15:42.840 --> 00:15:44.640 >> Whenever it feels like it. 00:15:44.640 --> 00:15:45.200 >> Yeah. 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:46.220 >> But you probably have an iP 00:15:46.220 --> 00:15:47.000 od or script running, 00:15:47.000 --> 00:15:48.480 one of those damn things, 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:49.990 launching your iTunes all over 00:15:49.990 --> 00:15:50.640 the place. 00:15:50.640 --> 00:15:51.740 >> Excuse me, but I don't run 00:15:51.740 --> 00:15:52.720 that shit, all right? 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:54.720 >> No, you're too hardcore. 00:15:54.720 --> 00:15:56.960 >> Yeah. 00:15:56.960 --> 00:15:58.650 >> I have to go download the 00:15:58.650 --> 00:16:00.360 fucking source to Frontier, 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:02.220 but you won't even install a 00:16:02.220 --> 00:16:04.080 freaking application. 00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:05.940 >> Now you're talking all that 00:16:05.940 --> 00:16:06.720 slow way again, 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:10.350 you're, I have to go install 00:16:10.350 --> 00:16:13.120 your app. 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:14.230 >> That's too bad, because I 00:16:14.230 --> 00:16:14.920 can hear you just 00:16:14.920 --> 00:16:16.680 perfectly, that really sucks. 00:16:16.680 --> 00:16:19.610 >> Like, hey, this can't be 00:16:19.610 --> 00:16:20.880 very good. 00:16:20.880 --> 00:16:23.200 >> Well, you sound fine. 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:24.850 >> I know, I know, except when 00:16:24.850 --> 00:16:25.840 I'm imitating you. 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:27.250 >> Yeah, why don't you call me 00:16:27.250 --> 00:16:27.960 back then? 00:16:27.960 --> 00:16:29.150 >> All right, let's try that, 00:16:29.150 --> 00:16:31.040 hold on, I'll go away. 00:16:31.040 --> 00:16:34.320 [BELL RINGING] 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:35.620 One ring eating, one ring 00:16:35.620 --> 00:16:37.520 eating, two ring eating-ies. 00:16:37.520 --> 00:16:41.000 All right, say something. 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:42.760 >> Yeah, I'm on. 00:16:42.760 --> 00:16:43.560 >> That's better. 00:16:43.560 --> 00:16:44.640 >> Okay. 00:16:44.640 --> 00:16:46.310 >> I think we're still doing 00:16:46.310 --> 00:16:48.320 one of those trade secret shows 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:49.720 where we're not doing anything 00:16:49.720 --> 00:16:50.960 other than talking about trade 00:16:50.960 --> 00:16:51.520 secrets. 00:16:51.520 --> 00:16:53.160 >> Well, you want to do the 00:16:53.160 --> 00:16:54.120 Skype test. 00:16:54.120 --> 00:16:55.900 >> I can't function the way we 00:16:55.900 --> 00:16:57.560 were doing it, so, all right, 00:16:57.560 --> 00:16:58.440 this may be better. 00:16:58.440 --> 00:16:59.620 >> Okay, is this working okay 00:16:59.620 --> 00:17:00.120 for you? 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:00.920 >> So far, so good. 00:17:00.920 --> 00:17:02.040 >> Okay, good. 00:17:02.040 --> 00:17:03.040 >> All right, so now the 00:17:03.040 --> 00:17:04.760 question is, let me just find 00:17:04.760 --> 00:17:05.040 out 00:17:05.040 --> 00:17:06.760 what the size of this stuff is, 00:17:06.760 --> 00:17:07.480 because you asked, right? 00:17:07.480 --> 00:17:08.560 >> Mm-hm. 00:17:08.560 --> 00:17:11.720 >> All right, let's go explore. 00:17:11.720 --> 00:17:14.500 And it's not that big, 00:17:14.500 --> 00:17:16.600 basically, it's the-- 00:17:16.600 --> 00:17:20.640 >> Yeah? 00:17:20.640 --> 00:17:23.640 >> [INAUDIBLE] 00:17:23.640 --> 00:17:24.240 >> Let's see. 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:28.340 Hey, you know, I'd love to have 00:17:28.340 --> 00:17:29.760 some of that food you're eating 00:17:29.760 --> 00:17:29.760 , 00:17:29.760 --> 00:17:30.240 Erica. 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:31.260 >> I'm telling you, Patricia 00:17:31.260 --> 00:17:31.920 just joined us. 00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:33.560 She said she can't hear me or 00:17:33.560 --> 00:17:35.000 you because I have the 00:17:35.000 --> 00:17:35.400 headphones 00:17:35.400 --> 00:17:36.980 on, but she's-- now she's 00:17:36.980 --> 00:17:37.840 eating. 00:17:37.840 --> 00:17:39.880 What do you have there? 00:17:39.880 --> 00:17:41.480 >> Avocado. 00:17:41.480 --> 00:17:43.040 >> Lettuce. 00:17:43.040 --> 00:17:43.640 >> Mm-hm. 00:17:43.640 --> 00:17:44.720 >> And shrimp and dachshund. 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:46.720 >> That's rabbit food. 00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:48.800 >> No. 00:17:48.800 --> 00:17:49.610 >> That's healthy food, 00:17:49.610 --> 00:17:50.080 actually. 00:17:50.080 --> 00:17:51.300 >> Yeah, and you have, what is 00:17:51.300 --> 00:17:52.720 that, sun-dried tomatoes? 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:54.080 >> Sun-dried tomatoes and-- 00:17:54.080 --> 00:17:54.920 >> And what is this? 00:17:54.920 --> 00:17:56.720 >> And it is some-- 00:17:56.720 --> 00:17:57.760 >> Wrap. 00:17:57.760 --> 00:17:58.720 >> Yeah, some wrap. 00:17:58.720 --> 00:18:00.920 >> Tortilla, tortilla. 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:02.060 >> Now, could you ask her to 00:18:02.060 --> 00:18:02.800 sing that song 00:18:02.800 --> 00:18:04.240 as she sang for us, yeah? 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:05.030 >> Or it's like asking a 00:18:05.030 --> 00:18:06.800 comedian to tell a joke. 00:18:06.800 --> 00:18:07.560 >> Tell a joke. 00:18:07.560 --> 00:18:09.250 >> Or a programmer to write 00:18:09.250 --> 00:18:10.160 some code. 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:10.920 >> Write some code. 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:12.120 >> Yeah. 00:18:12.120 --> 00:18:12.920 No, I will not ask. 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:13.600 >> What was that song? 00:18:13.600 --> 00:18:14.320 What was that? 00:18:14.320 --> 00:18:14.960 >> Mambo Italiano. 00:18:14.960 --> 00:18:15.920 >> That's what it was. 00:18:15.920 --> 00:18:17.680 >> Yeah, would you like it? 00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:18.480 >> Oh, yeah. 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:19.760 >> Yeah. 00:18:19.760 --> 00:18:20.720 >> Yeah, it was funny. 00:18:20.720 --> 00:18:22.720 I was listening. 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:23.840 >> She says not bad for a heart 00:18:23.840 --> 00:18:24.400 patient. 00:18:24.400 --> 00:18:25.470 >> No, that's exactly what I 00:18:25.470 --> 00:18:26.000 was thinking 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:27.000 while she was doing it. 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:28.090 >> That's exactly what he was 00:18:28.090 --> 00:18:28.640 thinking. 00:18:28.640 --> 00:18:29.240 >> Yeah. 00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:30.250 >> Yeah, she thought that was 00:18:30.250 --> 00:18:30.840 really good. 00:18:30.840 --> 00:18:31.800 You're-- you're-- 00:18:31.800 --> 00:18:32.840 >> One heart patient. 00:18:32.840 --> 00:18:34.750 >> One heart patient to another 00:18:34.750 --> 00:18:35.040 here. 00:18:35.040 --> 00:18:36.110 With me in the middle, I don't 00:18:36.110 --> 00:18:37.260 think that's a good place to be 00:18:37.260 --> 00:18:37.600 . 00:18:37.600 --> 00:18:38.720 >> Why not? 00:18:38.720 --> 00:18:39.600 >> Just kidding. 00:18:39.600 --> 00:18:41.240 >> You have to take full of us 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:42.320 old heart patients 00:18:42.320 --> 00:18:43.480 in our old age or whatever. 00:18:43.480 --> 00:18:44.750 >> Yeah, someone's got to watch 00:18:44.750 --> 00:18:45.480 over you guys. 00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:46.160 >> Exactly. 00:18:46.160 --> 00:18:49.200 So it's 1357K. 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:50.720 So it's about 1.3 megs. 00:18:50.720 --> 00:18:51.840 >> Oh, that's nothing. 00:18:51.840 --> 00:18:54.130 >> It's tiny compared to an MP3 00:18:54.130 --> 00:18:54.400 . 00:18:54.400 --> 00:18:55.000 I mean, you know-- 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:57.120 >> But you could actually code 00:18:57.120 --> 00:18:57.840 all kinds of stuff 00:18:57.840 --> 00:18:59.480 into the kernel. 00:18:59.480 --> 00:18:59.840 >> Yeah. 00:18:59.840 --> 00:19:00.980 >> And turn that into an 00:19:00.980 --> 00:19:01.840 application. 00:19:01.840 --> 00:19:02.280 >> Yeah. 00:19:02.280 --> 00:19:03.410 Like, for example, one of the 00:19:03.410 --> 00:19:04.560 things I wanted to do-- 00:19:04.560 --> 00:19:06.560 >> Is create iPod or-- 00:19:06.560 --> 00:19:07.860 >> Well, that wasn't what I was 00:19:07.860 --> 00:19:08.600 going to say. 00:19:08.600 --> 00:19:09.040 >> No. 00:19:09.040 --> 00:19:09.520 >> I don't know. 00:19:09.520 --> 00:19:10.450 You guys seem to be doing so 00:19:10.450 --> 00:19:11.160 good with that. 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:12.120 I'm not sure we need to do that 00:19:12.120 --> 00:19:12.280 . 00:19:12.280 --> 00:19:13.400 >> Well, the publishing side is 00:19:13.400 --> 00:19:14.560 where we're going to run 00:19:14.560 --> 00:19:15.240 into problems. 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:17.670 And I've been thinking about 00:19:17.670 --> 00:19:18.720 this a lot. 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:19.680 You know, because either you're 00:19:19.680 --> 00:19:20.480 going to interface 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:25.000 with existing weblog software 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:26.760 that'll create an RSS file, 00:19:26.760 --> 00:19:28.180 or you're going to basically go 00:19:28.180 --> 00:19:29.760 back and do all that work again 00:19:29.760 --> 00:19:29.760 . 00:19:29.760 --> 00:19:32.160 And I think that's pretty silly 00:19:32.160 --> 00:19:32.160 . 00:19:32.160 --> 00:19:33.080 >> No, you don't want to 00:19:33.080 --> 00:19:33.960 recreate a weblog-- 00:19:33.960 --> 00:19:34.760 >> No, of course not. 00:19:34.760 --> 00:19:35.520 But that's exactly the 00:19:35.520 --> 00:19:36.560 infrastructure we want to 00:19:36.560 --> 00:19:37.680 publish. 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:40.120 >> Well, OK, so you've got-- 00:19:40.120 --> 00:19:41.120 let's go through this. 00:19:41.120 --> 00:19:42.490 WordPress sounds like they're 00:19:42.490 --> 00:19:43.640 going to do it, right? 00:19:43.640 --> 00:19:45.340 >> Well, they already have an 00:19:45.340 --> 00:19:47.200 enclosure support running. 00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:47.560 >> Right. 00:19:47.560 --> 00:19:49.250 And I have half of it in Manila 00:19:49.250 --> 00:19:49.520 . 00:19:49.520 --> 00:19:51.440 OK, that's part of what I did 00:19:51.440 --> 00:19:53.240 for secrets at scripting.com. 00:19:53.240 --> 00:19:54.570 >> Yeah, I'd love to have that 00:19:54.570 --> 00:19:55.160 code. 00:19:55.160 --> 00:19:55.940 >> I don't have the user 00:19:55.940 --> 00:19:56.480 interface. 00:19:56.480 --> 00:19:57.360 So I'll give you the code. 00:19:57.360 --> 00:19:58.160 >> OK, great. 00:19:58.160 --> 00:19:58.760 >> Yeah. 00:19:58.760 --> 00:20:00.010 >> But first, let me put a user 00:20:00.010 --> 00:20:00.720 interface on it 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:02.780 so that you can type the URL in 00:20:02.780 --> 00:20:03.080 . 00:20:03.080 --> 00:20:04.320 So you don't have to go into 00:20:04.320 --> 00:20:05.800 web edit and put it in there, 00:20:05.800 --> 00:20:06.830 because that's the way I have 00:20:06.830 --> 00:20:07.640 to do it right now. 00:20:07.640 --> 00:20:10.100 >> Oh, OK, yeah, that's not a 00:20:10.100 --> 00:20:12.040 very convenient way. 00:20:12.040 --> 00:20:13.960 >> Yeah, that's not going to go 00:20:13.960 --> 00:20:14.440 over-- 00:20:14.440 --> 00:20:15.720 well, but it's very-- the easy 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:16.480 part, I think, 00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:18.000 is the user interface. 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:19.690 The hard part was figuring out 00:20:19.690 --> 00:20:20.760 how to fit it in. 00:20:20.760 --> 00:20:21.680 >> Well, wouldn't you do it 00:20:21.680 --> 00:20:22.120 just like-- 00:20:22.120 --> 00:20:22.800 just like radio-- 00:20:22.800 --> 00:20:25.120 >> Because that's Manila. 00:20:25.120 --> 00:20:25.900 >> I'm sorry, I was going to 00:20:25.900 --> 00:20:26.760 say, wouldn't you do it just 00:20:26.760 --> 00:20:27.760 like radio use land? 00:20:27.760 --> 00:20:28.280 >> It's very much like radio. 00:20:28.280 --> 00:20:30.440 >> Yeah. 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:31.760 >> Sure, it's very much like 00:20:31.760 --> 00:20:32.680 radio use land. 00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:34.120 But it's Manila, because Manila 00:20:34.120 --> 00:20:36.120 is a different model. 00:20:36.120 --> 00:20:38.060 It's a dynamic content 00:20:38.060 --> 00:20:39.600 management system, whereas 00:20:39.600 --> 00:20:40.480 radio-- 00:20:40.480 --> 00:20:41.570 you know, it's the question of 00:20:41.570 --> 00:20:43.080 deep frying versus baking. 00:20:43.080 --> 00:20:44.900 Manila is deep fried, radio is 00:20:44.900 --> 00:20:45.520 baked. 00:20:45.520 --> 00:20:47.760 But what was I going to say? 00:20:47.760 --> 00:20:49.200 So you've got radio, you're 00:20:49.200 --> 00:20:51.200 going to have Manila soon, 00:20:51.200 --> 00:20:53.310 movable type, probably should-- 00:20:53.310 --> 00:20:54.120 they should do it. 00:20:54.120 --> 00:20:55.400 I don't know. 00:20:55.400 --> 00:20:59.140 Brent sort of did a half-ass 00:20:59.140 --> 00:21:00.160 job. 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:00.680 >> On what? 00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:01.520 On net new-- 00:21:01.520 --> 00:21:02.440 >> On the closures. 00:21:02.440 --> 00:21:03.800 On the other side, actually. 00:21:03.800 --> 00:21:04.950 >> Oh, OK, on the publishing 00:21:04.950 --> 00:21:05.720 side, right. 00:21:05.720 --> 00:21:07.170 >> I don't know what he is so 00:21:07.170 --> 00:21:08.000 scared of. 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:09.400 You know, he's been saying for 00:21:09.400 --> 00:21:11.120 the longest time that it freaks 00:21:11.120 --> 00:21:12.030 him out this idea of 00:21:12.030 --> 00:21:13.440 downloading in closures. 00:21:13.440 --> 00:21:14.320 >> Really? 00:21:14.320 --> 00:21:14.920 >> You know. 00:21:14.920 --> 00:21:16.200 >> Well, they now support it. 00:21:16.200 --> 00:21:17.740 Did you see the post I pointed 00:21:17.740 --> 00:21:18.120 to? 00:21:18.120 --> 00:21:19.080 >> Yeah, of course I did. 00:21:19.080 --> 00:21:21.080 But it wasn't-- you know, it 00:21:21.080 --> 00:21:21.080 wasn't-- 00:21:21.080 --> 00:21:22.130 >> He didn't actually put it in 00:21:22.130 --> 00:21:22.320 . 00:21:22.320 --> 00:21:25.880 He said, here's how you do it. 00:21:25.880 --> 00:21:27.420 >> Right, but why not put it in 00:21:27.420 --> 00:21:27.480 ? 00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:29.080 >> I don't know. 00:21:29.080 --> 00:21:30.450 It's a lot easier for him to 00:21:30.450 --> 00:21:31.120 put it in. 00:21:31.120 --> 00:21:32.890 It's a lot easier for him to 00:21:32.890 --> 00:21:34.160 put it in than it is for you 00:21:34.160 --> 00:21:35.120 to hack it up with an Apple 00:21:35.120 --> 00:21:35.560 script. 00:21:35.560 --> 00:21:35.960 >> Yeah. 00:21:35.960 --> 00:21:37.560 >> Oh, just as in-- 00:21:37.560 --> 00:21:38.870 >> He's trying to avoid some 00:21:38.870 --> 00:21:40.160 kind of support issue. 00:21:40.160 --> 00:21:42.520 >> Really? 00:21:42.520 --> 00:21:44.050 >> Well, I mean, you know, I 00:21:44.050 --> 00:21:44.840 don't know. 00:21:44.840 --> 00:21:46.640 >> It may be valid. 00:21:46.640 --> 00:21:47.400 >> No, it's not. 00:21:47.400 --> 00:21:48.450 >> OK, can you just talk a 00:21:48.450 --> 00:21:49.480 little bit more into the mic, 00:21:49.480 --> 00:21:50.730 Dave, so we can just all hear 00:21:50.730 --> 00:21:51.440 you at home? 00:21:51.440 --> 00:21:52.780 >> It's like totally right up 00:21:52.780 --> 00:21:53.520 to my mouth. 00:21:53.520 --> 00:21:54.320 >> Can you just stick it in a 00:21:54.320 --> 00:21:55.000 little further? 00:21:55.000 --> 00:21:56.000 >> No. 00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:57.600 [LAUGHTER] 00:21:57.600 --> 00:21:59.040 >> I'm going to get-- 00:21:59.040 --> 00:22:00.240 anyway, so like I'm already 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:01.720 saying politically incorrect 00:22:01.720 --> 00:22:03.080 things here, you know. 00:22:03.080 --> 00:22:04.480 I didn't even ask. 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:05.480 >> It's OK. 00:22:05.480 --> 00:22:06.480 >> Yeah. 00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:07.480 Well, the other thing I wanted 00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:08.200 to say about Brent's thing 00:22:08.200 --> 00:22:09.360 is why the hell doesn't he give 00:22:09.360 --> 00:22:11.560 some credit to XMLRPC, you 00:22:11.560 --> 00:22:13.180 know, and to the MetaWeblog API 00:22:13.180 --> 00:22:14.760 , which made all of that stuff 00:22:14.760 --> 00:22:16.040 in MarsEdit possible. 00:22:16.040 --> 00:22:16.400 >> Yeah. 00:22:16.400 --> 00:22:18.400 >> I mean, this guy goes out of 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:19.880 his way to make nice 00:22:19.880 --> 00:22:21.080 to the Adam people. 00:22:21.080 --> 00:22:22.900 Why not go out of his way to be 00:22:22.900 --> 00:22:24.760 nice to the MetaWeblog API 00:22:24.760 --> 00:22:25.120 people? 00:22:25.120 --> 00:22:26.020 >> Oh, so you want-- what you 00:22:26.020 --> 00:22:27.920 want is you want a credit line? 00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:28.860 >> Well, I'd love him to say 00:22:28.860 --> 00:22:29.760 that, hey, you know, 00:22:29.760 --> 00:22:30.880 the technology works. 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:32.320 These guys did a great job. 00:22:32.320 --> 00:22:33.740 If it weren't for what they had 00:22:33.740 --> 00:22:34.120 done, 00:22:34.120 --> 00:22:35.750 I wouldn't be able to do this, 00:22:35.750 --> 00:22:36.480 you know. 00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:37.710 And he's out there taking the 00:22:37.710 --> 00:22:38.320 credit for it. 00:22:38.320 --> 00:22:39.380 Everybody goes, well, Brent's a 00:22:39.380 --> 00:22:39.720 great guy. 00:22:39.720 --> 00:22:40.800 And Brent is a great guy. 00:22:40.800 --> 00:22:41.510 >> Well, he's a great integr 00:22:41.510 --> 00:22:41.760 ator. 00:22:41.760 --> 00:22:42.880 It's not-- you know. 00:22:42.880 --> 00:22:43.980 >> But he's building on the 00:22:43.980 --> 00:22:44.760 work of other people. 00:22:44.760 --> 00:22:46.470 And he has really gone out of 00:22:46.470 --> 00:22:47.840 his way to praise the Adam 00:22:47.840 --> 00:22:48.320 people. 00:22:48.320 --> 00:22:49.620 And I don't know why he doesn't 00:22:49.620 --> 00:22:50.520 -- now, you know, 00:22:50.520 --> 00:22:51.900 he likes to say he's being fair 00:22:51.900 --> 00:22:52.400 , right? 00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:54.230 But no, it's fair would be to 00:22:54.230 --> 00:22:55.800 say, I'm not really using any 00:22:55.800 --> 00:22:57.640 of the Adam guys stuff here. 00:22:57.640 --> 00:22:59.860 >> But can I just ask, why do 00:22:59.860 --> 00:23:00.920 you care? 00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:01.800 >> Yeah, that's why I keep 00:23:01.800 --> 00:23:02.600 sitting to myself. 00:23:02.600 --> 00:23:02.920 >> Really? 00:23:02.920 --> 00:23:03.360 Why? 00:23:03.360 --> 00:23:04.250 I mean, let me give you a 00:23:04.250 --> 00:23:05.080 perfect example. 00:23:05.080 --> 00:23:07.330 So all of a sudden, iPod takes 00:23:07.330 --> 00:23:08.520 off, right? 00:23:08.520 --> 00:23:10.520 And it's great because I'm 00:23:10.520 --> 00:23:13.360 being credited on web blogs. 00:23:13.360 --> 00:23:14.610 And being-- let me hear me out 00:23:14.610 --> 00:23:15.200 for a second. 00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:18.640 I'm being credited just about-- 00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:20.950 I sure hope it's recording my 00:23:20.950 --> 00:23:21.760 voice. 00:23:21.760 --> 00:23:23.140 >> Ah-ha, now he's getting 00:23:23.140 --> 00:23:24.080 ready to say something. 00:23:24.080 --> 00:23:25.520 He wants everybody to hear. 00:23:25.520 --> 00:23:26.740 >> Wait, no, of course, it's 00:23:26.740 --> 00:23:27.400 got to be recording. 00:23:27.400 --> 00:23:28.410 >> Do you think it might not be 00:23:28.410 --> 00:23:28.960 recording? 00:23:28.960 --> 00:23:29.880 >> Hold on, let me just check. 00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:30.730 I want to make sure so that 00:23:30.730 --> 00:23:31.600 everyone can hear what I have 00:23:31.600 --> 00:23:33.400 to say, god damn it. 00:23:33.400 --> 00:23:34.440 Hold on. 00:23:34.440 --> 00:23:35.450 >> Well, while you were waiting 00:23:35.450 --> 00:23:35.560 , 00:23:35.560 --> 00:23:37.560 I'll tell you why I care, OK? 00:23:37.560 --> 00:23:39.910 There's first the irrational 00:23:39.910 --> 00:23:40.880 reasons, OK? 00:23:40.880 --> 00:23:43.480 Which unfortunately exist, OK? 00:23:43.480 --> 00:23:44.590 And then there are the rational 00:23:44.590 --> 00:23:45.040 reasons. 00:23:45.040 --> 00:23:47.190 And the irrational ones is like 00:23:47.190 --> 00:23:48.720 you work your ass off, 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:50.150 and you pay the price 00:23:50.150 --> 00:23:52.640 physically and lifestyle wise. 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:53.560 >> Yeah. 00:23:53.560 --> 00:23:54.120 And then you sort of like-- 00:23:54.120 --> 00:23:55.200 >> It's working, by the way. 00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:55.920 I'm sorry. 00:23:55.920 --> 00:23:56.360 It's working. 00:23:56.360 --> 00:23:57.150 >> Sort of like people just say 00:23:57.150 --> 00:23:57.920 , hey, thanks. 00:23:57.920 --> 00:23:59.520 That was good work. 00:23:59.520 --> 00:24:00.160 >> No, I understand. 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:01.230 >> Let me just finish on my 00:24:01.230 --> 00:24:01.800 thought. 00:24:01.800 --> 00:24:02.960 >> All right, go ahead. 00:24:02.960 --> 00:24:04.200 >> Let me finish on my thought. 00:24:04.200 --> 00:24:06.720 So, of course, and I get 00:24:06.720 --> 00:24:07.560 credited-- 00:24:07.560 --> 00:24:08.640 into code even, I'm getting 00:24:08.640 --> 00:24:09.200 credited. 00:24:09.200 --> 00:24:09.920 It's fabulous. 00:24:09.920 --> 00:24:10.960 I love it. 00:24:10.960 --> 00:24:11.980 I'm not used to that, by the 00:24:11.980 --> 00:24:16.120 way, because usually it's like 00:24:16.120 --> 00:24:18.160 the Adam Curry from VH1 thing 00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:19.200 that I just told you about, 00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:19.960 right? 00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:20.680 And that's going to happen. 00:24:20.680 --> 00:24:21.840 And these guys were well-- 00:24:21.840 --> 00:24:22.870 their intentions were-- I think 00:24:22.870 --> 00:24:23.440 were pretty good. 00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:24.800 They actually were-- you should 00:24:24.800 --> 00:24:25.200 listen to that. 00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:26.520 When you hear the Gilmore Gang, 00:24:26.520 --> 00:24:27.560 you'll understand 00:24:27.560 --> 00:24:28.480 what I'm saying. 00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:30.320 And they really meant well. 00:24:30.320 --> 00:24:31.760 But even that, it's like, yeah, 00:24:31.760 --> 00:24:32.480 that bothers you. 00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:33.560 But at the end of the day-- 00:24:33.560 --> 00:24:36.280 [BURPING] 00:24:36.280 --> 00:24:36.840 You know? 00:24:36.840 --> 00:24:37.440 >> All right. 00:24:37.440 --> 00:24:38.040 >> Seriously. 00:24:38.040 --> 00:24:39.560 It's like, you know, you can't 00:24:39.560 --> 00:24:39.880 go-- 00:24:39.880 --> 00:24:41.290 you-- people either give you 00:24:41.290 --> 00:24:41.680 credit, 00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:43.170 you can't say you owe me credit 00:24:43.170 --> 00:24:43.400 . 00:24:43.400 --> 00:24:44.640 It just doesn't work that way. 00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:45.600 >> I didn't say that. 00:24:45.600 --> 00:24:46.960 Those are the words I said. 00:24:46.960 --> 00:24:47.760 >> No, but you said-- 00:24:47.760 --> 00:24:49.480 I wish that. 00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:50.320 >> Yeah, I do. 00:24:50.320 --> 00:24:51.760 And there's the-- OK, I was 00:24:51.760 --> 00:24:52.760 starting to say there's the 00:24:52.760 --> 00:24:55.000 semi-irrational reasons for it, 00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:56.440 which I think are perfectly 00:24:56.440 --> 00:24:57.680 legitimate. 00:24:57.680 --> 00:24:58.970 And then there are the rational 00:24:58.970 --> 00:25:00.400 reasons, which is that 00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:01.750 basically you get written out 00:25:01.750 --> 00:25:03.040 of the record, and then you 00:25:03.040 --> 00:25:04.360 can't do it again. 00:25:04.360 --> 00:25:06.000 In other words, every time you 00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:07.600 try to do something new, 00:25:07.600 --> 00:25:09.010 basically you face the same 00:25:09.010 --> 00:25:10.440 obstacles you face the first 00:25:10.440 --> 00:25:11.790 time you tried to do something 00:25:11.790 --> 00:25:12.080 new. 00:25:12.080 --> 00:25:13.330 If you don't get credit for 00:25:13.330 --> 00:25:14.680 your successes, then people 00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:16.340 will say, well, maybe this guy 00:25:16.340 --> 00:25:17.280 knows what he's talking 00:25:17.280 --> 00:25:19.380 about because he did X, Y, and 00:25:19.380 --> 00:25:20.600 Z. And believe me, that 00:25:20.600 --> 00:25:21.600 happens all the time. 00:25:21.600 --> 00:25:23.420 I mean, people come in and take 00:25:23.420 --> 00:25:24.720 credit for what I've done, 00:25:24.720 --> 00:25:26.600 and they get to do it again. 00:25:26.600 --> 00:25:27.280 But I know. 00:25:27.280 --> 00:25:28.280 And that's-- 00:25:28.280 --> 00:25:29.680 >> Well, I'll give an example. 00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:30.680 >> Very frustrating. 00:25:30.680 --> 00:25:32.680 >> I'll give an example. 00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:33.680 Here's something interesting. 00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:38.480 So now forget it. 00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:39.680 That's too long of an example. 00:25:39.680 --> 00:25:40.580 >> Look, I understand what you 00:25:40.580 --> 00:25:41.040 're saying. 00:25:41.040 --> 00:25:42.580 Let me try to play it back to 00:25:42.580 --> 00:25:43.040 you. 00:25:43.040 --> 00:25:44.160 Like, if you do it-- 00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:44.920 if you try-- 00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:47.530 when you start doing something 00:25:47.530 --> 00:25:48.840 like this, like 00:25:48.840 --> 00:25:52.600 MetaWebLog, API, or XMRPC, you 00:25:52.600 --> 00:25:54.400 say things like, well, I 00:25:54.400 --> 00:25:55.720 just want this stuff to happen. 00:25:55.720 --> 00:25:57.760 I don't really care how it 00:25:57.760 --> 00:25:58.800 happens. 00:25:58.800 --> 00:26:00.410 So to be consistent with that, 00:26:00.410 --> 00:26:01.800 you'd have to say, well, I 00:26:01.800 --> 00:26:02.400 said it then. 00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:04.520 I should mean it now, right? 00:26:04.520 --> 00:26:06.240 So I understand that. 00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:07.800 And in fact, I see Brett saying 00:26:07.800 --> 00:26:08.840 some of those things, 00:26:08.840 --> 00:26:09.870 like where he says he really 00:26:09.870 --> 00:26:10.840 likes the guy who writes 00:26:10.840 --> 00:26:12.720 Ecto and this and that. 00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:14.580 And I go to myself, boy, is he 00:26:14.580 --> 00:26:16.040 setting him up because these 00:26:16.040 --> 00:26:17.640 guys are going to nail his ass. 00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:18.680 >> For what? 00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:19.120 >> Why? 00:26:19.120 --> 00:26:20.700 Because that's what happened to 00:26:20.700 --> 00:26:20.960 me. 00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:22.380 Basically, I said to some of 00:26:22.380 --> 00:26:24.360 these guys, oh, no one owns 00:26:24.360 --> 00:26:25.160 RSS. 00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:26.320 You know what they heard? 00:26:26.320 --> 00:26:27.680 You know what they heard, Adam? 00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:29.280 >> Yeah, they heard I own RSS. 00:26:29.280 --> 00:26:29.960 That's what they heard. 00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:30.920 Yeah, I know. 00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:31.770 But that's the way the human 00:26:31.770 --> 00:26:32.520 brain works, man. 00:26:32.520 --> 00:26:33.800 That's the way it works. 00:26:33.800 --> 00:26:34.160 >> Right. 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:35.200 That's what Brett's walking 00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:36.000 around into. 00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:38.920 So anyway, I think that-- 00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:39.870 >> So what you should say-- 00:26:39.870 --> 00:26:40.920 check this out. 00:26:40.920 --> 00:26:41.480 Check this out. 00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:43.810 You should say, I do not want 00:26:43.810 --> 00:26:45.560 any recognition. 00:26:45.560 --> 00:26:46.680 I just don't want it. 00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:48.260 I don't want the recognition 00:26:48.260 --> 00:26:49.720 because it's just too much 00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:50.280 attention. 00:26:50.280 --> 00:26:51.400 I don't want it from people. 00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:52.640 Please don't do-- stop doing 00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:53.080 that. 00:26:53.080 --> 00:26:54.610 Stop giving me attention or 00:26:54.610 --> 00:26:55.600 recognition. 00:26:55.600 --> 00:26:57.440 >> You know, I'm almost there. 00:26:57.440 --> 00:26:58.810 Basically, what happened was 00:26:58.810 --> 00:27:00.560 after I got sick two years ago, 00:27:00.560 --> 00:27:01.970 I decided I'm not doing this 00:27:01.970 --> 00:27:03.400 stuff for anybody but myself 00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:04.000 anymore. 00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:05.400 And I stopped releasing it. 00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:06.200 I really did. 00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:08.740 It was basically, I said, hard 00:27:08.740 --> 00:27:09.920 for these guys. 00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:10.880 >> You said what? 00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:12.280 >> They don't appreciate-- 00:27:12.280 --> 00:27:13.700 so why am I working so hard for 00:27:13.700 --> 00:27:14.480 these guys? 00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:16.040 They don't appreciate it. 00:27:16.040 --> 00:27:17.960 They never say thank you. 00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:19.060 They don't give me credit for 00:27:19.060 --> 00:27:19.240 it. 00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:20.040 And I said the hell with it. 00:27:20.040 --> 00:27:21.160 I'm not going to do it anymore. 00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:22.280 And I don't. 00:27:22.280 --> 00:27:23.560 I have a new content management 00:27:23.560 --> 00:27:24.600 system that I use. 00:27:24.600 --> 00:27:25.080 I'm sorry. 00:27:25.080 --> 00:27:26.160 I do it for myself. 00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:27.400 And I'm happy with it. 00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:29.010 And maybe I'll share it with my 00:27:29.010 --> 00:27:29.680 friends. 00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:32.520 But I'm not going to be-- 00:27:32.520 --> 00:27:33.710 believe me, the world's got to 00:27:33.710 --> 00:27:34.800 straighten this thing out. 00:27:34.800 --> 00:27:36.580 It's got to learn how to value 00:27:36.580 --> 00:27:37.600 generosity. 00:27:37.600 --> 00:27:38.690 And I've had this talk with 00:27:38.690 --> 00:27:39.120 Lessig. 00:27:39.120 --> 00:27:40.780 And Lessig is just getting me 00:27:40.780 --> 00:27:42.200 to get this, I think. 00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:43.640 He sent me an email the other 00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:43.920 day. 00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:44.900 He said, well, have you pat 00:27:44.900 --> 00:27:45.840 ented any of this stuff? 00:27:45.840 --> 00:27:47.100 Because we're talking about 00:27:47.100 --> 00:27:47.520 here. 00:27:47.520 --> 00:27:48.670 And I said, no, Larry, it's 00:27:48.670 --> 00:27:49.680 against my religion. 00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:50.830 And he basically came back and 00:27:50.830 --> 00:27:52.240 said, that's a good answer. 00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:55.120 But why was he asking? 00:27:55.120 --> 00:27:57.060 And that was good he was asking 00:27:57.060 --> 00:27:57.080 . 00:27:57.080 --> 00:27:57.760 Dave, hold on. 00:27:57.760 --> 00:27:58.400 Hold on. 00:27:58.400 --> 00:27:59.400 Let's just reconnect one second 00:27:59.400 --> 00:28:00.440 , because now you're giving 00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:02.800 the robo-cop on me. 00:28:02.800 --> 00:28:03.800 One second. 00:28:03.800 --> 00:28:12.840 Yeah, OK. 00:28:12.840 --> 00:28:13.200 All right. 00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:13.840 Beautiful. 00:28:13.840 --> 00:28:14.360 Right. 00:28:14.360 --> 00:28:15.920 So, Lessig. 00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:17.860 Anyway, so they were talking 00:28:17.860 --> 00:28:20.400 about iPod or Bill Moore Gang. 00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:21.440 Yeah, you got to hear it. 00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:22.760 And it's funny, because they 00:28:22.760 --> 00:28:24.280 tried to talk about Sun 00:28:24.280 --> 00:28:28.280 and their pay by the cycle hour 00:28:28.280 --> 00:28:30.080 offering. 00:28:30.080 --> 00:28:33.660 Well, they kept drifting back 00:28:33.660 --> 00:28:34.960 to iPod. 00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:36.420 And at the end of the show, 00:28:36.420 --> 00:28:37.440 they're like, oh, we were 00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:38.800 really all over the map. 00:28:38.800 --> 00:28:39.540 We were talking about so many 00:28:39.540 --> 00:28:40.160 different things. 00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:42.920 Yeah, iPod-er. 00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:44.080 It was great. 00:28:44.080 --> 00:28:45.680 And then it was like-- 00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:46.490 and they were trying to find it 00:28:46.490 --> 00:28:46.640 . 00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:47.360 They're all online. 00:28:47.360 --> 00:28:48.360 You've got to listen to this. 00:28:48.360 --> 00:28:49.600 And it's like, iPod-er. 00:28:49.600 --> 00:28:50.760 Doc Searle says, I can't find 00:28:50.760 --> 00:28:51.040 it. 00:28:51.040 --> 00:28:52.300 Just take me to Adam Curry's 00:28:52.300 --> 00:28:52.680 web log. 00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:54.050 And I said, no, no, it's iPod- 00:28:54.050 --> 00:28:54.760 er.org. 00:28:54.760 --> 00:28:55.400 .org. 00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:56.960 They're all trying .com. 00:28:56.960 --> 00:28:58.460 Well, let me get my two cents 00:28:58.460 --> 00:28:58.840 in. 00:28:58.840 --> 00:29:00.120 It's one of the most successful 00:29:00.120 --> 00:29:00.920 development projects 00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:02.360 on the net in the last few 00:29:02.360 --> 00:29:03.000 years. 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:03.880 Really? 00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:05.720 Maybe the most acceptable. 00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:06.720 Whoa. 00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:08.370 Because what happens is these 00:29:08.370 --> 00:29:10.200 stupid mail lists get so bogged 00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:11.950 down with all these people who 00:29:11.950 --> 00:29:12.720 know better. 00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:13.820 And they want to go back and 00:29:13.820 --> 00:29:14.080 redo-- 00:29:14.080 --> 00:29:16.240 you had working five years ago. 00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:17.880 And they are so persistent. 00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:19.080 They have so much time. 00:29:19.080 --> 00:29:20.120 They make the best out of it. 00:29:20.120 --> 00:29:23.590 Did you see Steve Garfield's 00:29:23.590 --> 00:29:24.160 contributions 00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:26.120 to the iPod-er dev list? 00:29:26.120 --> 00:29:26.600 No. 00:29:26.600 --> 00:29:27.280 Oh, it's great. 00:29:27.280 --> 00:29:28.720 He's a total user. 00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:30.000 100% is great. 00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:31.400 And he's like, this shit's-- 00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:32.470 I don't understand that it's 00:29:32.470 --> 00:29:32.920 fucked up. 00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:33.870 It's downloading things it 00:29:33.870 --> 00:29:34.400 shouldn't. 00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:35.080 I don't get it. 00:29:35.080 --> 00:29:36.360 And people are all over trying 00:29:36.360 --> 00:29:38.120 to help him, setting them up, 00:29:38.120 --> 00:29:39.120 getting new releases out. 00:29:39.120 --> 00:29:39.720 It's beautiful. 00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:40.320 But that's the idea. 00:29:40.320 --> 00:29:41.600 It's supposed to be downloading 00:29:41.600 --> 00:29:42.520 shit all the time, right? 00:29:42.520 --> 00:29:43.520 Yeah. 00:29:43.520 --> 00:29:45.870 But there was-- one of the 00:29:45.870 --> 00:29:47.840 concerns that everyone had, 00:29:47.840 --> 00:29:49.790 of course, was you have these 00:29:49.790 --> 00:29:51.120 beautiful iPod-er set up 00:29:51.120 --> 00:29:52.040 with default feeds. 00:29:52.040 --> 00:29:53.260 Or even if you just add a new 00:29:53.260 --> 00:29:53.640 feed, 00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:55.080 if someone's like Radio User 00:29:55.080 --> 00:29:55.480 Land, 00:29:55.480 --> 00:29:58.400 I think my default is 25 items 00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:00.720 in an RSS feed, times 15 00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:01.680 to 30 megs. 00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:03.360 Hello. 00:30:03.360 --> 00:30:04.950 So what we've come up with now 00:30:04.950 --> 00:30:05.960 is it's configurable. 00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:07.790 But the default is it downloads 00:30:07.790 --> 00:30:09.200 the last three items. 00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:11.190 And then on the next run, it'll 00:30:11.190 --> 00:30:13.040 download the three before that. 00:30:13.040 --> 00:30:14.200 And the next run, the three 00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:14.880 before that, 00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:16.720 until it's saturated. 00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:18.680 Which is-- 00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:20.030 Maybe it shouldn't download all 00:30:20.030 --> 00:30:21.120 the things in the feed. 00:30:21.120 --> 00:30:22.580 Maybe it should only start 00:30:22.580 --> 00:30:24.040 downloading with things 00:30:24.040 --> 00:30:25.160 that are new after you've 00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:25.880 subscribed. 00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:27.180 Well, I think that everyone's 00:30:27.180 --> 00:30:28.160 putting the options in 00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:28.960 and the preferences. 00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:30.090 But the question is, what is 00:30:30.090 --> 00:30:30.800 the default? 00:30:30.800 --> 00:30:31.300 Yeah. 00:30:31.300 --> 00:30:32.800 What's the default going to be? 00:30:32.800 --> 00:30:34.010 The default is all that matters 00:30:34.010 --> 00:30:34.360 here. 00:30:34.360 --> 00:30:35.040 Yeah, exactly. 00:30:35.040 --> 00:30:36.450 Because first of all, you're 00:30:36.450 --> 00:30:37.890 controlling first time behavior 00:30:37.890 --> 00:30:38.080 . 00:30:38.080 --> 00:30:38.360 Yeah. 00:30:38.360 --> 00:30:39.660 And that's what we're screwing 00:30:39.660 --> 00:30:40.360 up right now. 00:30:40.360 --> 00:30:40.860 Yeah. 00:30:40.860 --> 00:30:42.600 [INAUDIBLE] 00:30:42.600 --> 00:30:43.080 Yeah. 00:30:43.080 --> 00:30:44.580 We're still screwing that up a 00:30:44.580 --> 00:30:45.840 little bit right now. 00:30:45.840 --> 00:30:47.410 So we decided to call it mobile 00:30:47.410 --> 00:30:47.880 blogging 00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:49.650 and get inside step all the his 00:30:49.650 --> 00:30:50.360 sy fitting. 00:30:50.360 --> 00:30:51.960 And that seems like a fair-- 00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:52.800 Not. 00:30:52.800 --> 00:30:54.880 Like a good-- 00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:55.400 Yeah. 00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:56.620 Did you see that mobile blog 00:30:56.620 --> 00:31:01.160 ging video clip I posted today? 00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:02.120 You're gone again. 00:31:02.120 --> 00:31:02.720 Really? 00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:04.000 This sucks. 00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:05.280 Wait, you're back now. 00:31:05.280 --> 00:31:06.920 OK. 00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:08.600 See, the thing was-- 00:31:08.600 --> 00:31:10.530 Did you see the mobile blogging 00:31:10.530 --> 00:31:12.720 video clip I posted today? 00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:14.160 I pointed to it? 00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:14.680 No. 00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:15.680 Oh, it's very cool. 00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:17.520 It's two guys that are driving 00:31:17.520 --> 00:31:19.920 from LA to New York 00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:20.880 in a convertible. 00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:22.120 And they had a camera on the 00:31:22.120 --> 00:31:22.840 back of the car. 00:31:22.840 --> 00:31:25.240 And they did a stop frame. 00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:26.540 So in four minutes, you travel 00:31:26.540 --> 00:31:28.000 with them from LA to New York. 00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:30.800 It's beautiful. 00:31:30.800 --> 00:31:31.920 I think I have seen that. 00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:33.080 But it would be worth seeing. 00:31:33.080 --> 00:31:34.280 Yeah, that is beautiful. 00:31:34.280 --> 00:31:35.240 I've wanted that. 00:31:35.240 --> 00:31:35.920 It's really nice. 00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:37.150 My car was traveling across 00:31:37.150 --> 00:31:37.640 country. 00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:37.920 Yeah. 00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:41.350 Well, this is exactly what they 00:31:41.350 --> 00:31:42.160 did. 00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:42.800 Hold on. 00:31:42.800 --> 00:31:44.110 I've got to turn your volume up 00:31:44.110 --> 00:31:44.880 a little bit. 00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:45.920 How's that? 00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:47.010 Well, I don't think Skype is 00:31:47.010 --> 00:31:48.320 the answer out of my question. 00:31:48.320 --> 00:31:49.730 No, it's-- and I was just about 00:31:49.730 --> 00:31:50.000 to say, 00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:51.620 because what Skype does very 00:31:51.620 --> 00:31:54.520 well is the voice quality. 00:31:54.520 --> 00:31:55.670 But when it comes to keeping 00:31:55.670 --> 00:31:56.360 the connection, 00:31:56.360 --> 00:31:58.550 we've had much better success 00:31:58.550 --> 00:32:00.480 with the iChat and AIM. 00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:01.400 Yeah. 00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:02.400 People told me that I was 00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:03.800 breaking up on iChat, though. 00:32:03.800 --> 00:32:05.120 iChat, AIM. 00:32:05.120 --> 00:32:06.650 But they weren't complaining 00:32:06.650 --> 00:32:07.360 that much. 00:32:07.360 --> 00:32:08.320 They were sort of saying it 00:32:08.320 --> 00:32:09.000 kind of worked. 00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:09.680 You know what it is? 00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:10.910 At the end of the day, when you 00:32:10.910 --> 00:32:11.920 're listening to AM radio, 00:32:11.920 --> 00:32:13.560 you get used to it. 00:32:13.560 --> 00:32:15.480 Well, what we need is we need 00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:16.160 somebody 00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:17.480 who does voiceover IP. 00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:18.960 They can work with us. 00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:20.620 And because I think we have 00:32:20.620 --> 00:32:22.080 enough hardware here. 00:32:22.080 --> 00:32:24.420 We have-- both have reasonably 00:32:24.420 --> 00:32:25.680 good internet connections, 00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:26.200 right? 00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:26.440 Yeah. 00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:27.800 Well, here's the next thing. 00:32:27.800 --> 00:32:29.860 The next application I've been 00:32:29.860 --> 00:32:31.760 dicking around with, 00:32:31.760 --> 00:32:33.610 which may give us better 00:32:33.610 --> 00:32:35.920 results, is-- 00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:37.030 you familiar with the Free 00:32:37.030 --> 00:32:37.680 World Dial-up? 00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:39.040 You ever heard of that? 00:32:39.040 --> 00:32:39.560 No. 00:32:39.560 --> 00:32:40.760 Do you remember Jeff Pulver? 00:32:40.760 --> 00:32:41.960 You've probably seen his name 00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:42.600 around. 00:32:42.600 --> 00:32:43.360 Yeah. 00:32:43.360 --> 00:32:45.200 Oh, he was-- I know who he was, 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:47.040 the supernova guy. 00:32:47.040 --> 00:32:48.040 Could be. 00:32:48.040 --> 00:32:49.270 He was the guy-- that was the 00:32:49.270 --> 00:32:50.360 company that sponsored 00:32:50.360 --> 00:32:51.040 Supernova. 00:32:51.040 --> 00:32:52.640 Yeah, he's been around for a 00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:53.480 long time. 00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:54.000 Is that right? 00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:56.040 Yeah, I think so. 00:32:56.040 --> 00:32:57.790 So he started Free World Dial- 00:32:57.790 --> 00:32:59.720 up, which is essentially 00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:01.760 a voiceover IP network. 00:33:01.760 --> 00:33:03.430 And you can connect to it for 00:33:03.430 --> 00:33:04.000 free. 00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:06.160 You can download the basic 00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:07.960 software for free. 00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:09.570 And what they're going to be 00:33:09.570 --> 00:33:10.160 offering 00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:11.530 is what everyone else is going 00:33:11.530 --> 00:33:12.120 to be offering, 00:33:12.120 --> 00:33:14.390 or is offering, is numbers you 00:33:14.390 --> 00:33:16.080 can rent, virtual numbers, 00:33:16.080 --> 00:33:18.680 so someone can dial a New York 00:33:18.680 --> 00:33:19.040 number 00:33:19.040 --> 00:33:21.560 and get your connection. 00:33:21.560 --> 00:33:23.040 But also point to point, so why 00:33:23.040 --> 00:33:28.600 don't you download from 00:33:28.600 --> 00:33:30.880 FreeWorldDial-up.com? 00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:31.320 Hold on. 00:33:31.320 --> 00:33:32.040 Let me go there. 00:33:32.040 --> 00:33:35.160 Yeah, you want to download the 00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:37.120 X10 client. 00:33:37.120 --> 00:33:38.400 It comes pre-configured. 00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:39.680 You have to register. 00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:41.160 That's not a big deal. 00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:43.600 It's FreeWorldDial-up. 00:33:43.600 --> 00:33:45.760 Yeah, this is good. 00:33:45.760 --> 00:33:47.920 Let's just do the sit-down fly. 00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:48.750 Well, I don't want to try to 00:33:48.750 --> 00:33:49.850 download it while we're on 00:33:49.850 --> 00:33:50.440 Skype. 00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:51.440 Is that a buzz? 00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:51.920 Come on, pussy. 00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:54.040 Well, that'll screw up Skype. 00:33:54.040 --> 00:33:55.000 Screw up Skype. 00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:56.840 Skype is screwed up enough. 00:33:56.840 --> 00:33:58.320 OK, all right, all right. 00:33:58.320 --> 00:33:59.080 Here we go. 00:33:59.080 --> 00:34:00.720 I mean, I guess it's going to 00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:02.160 make any difference. 00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:03.520 My account-- well, you're not 00:34:03.520 --> 00:34:03.680 going 00:34:03.680 --> 00:34:04.710 to have to put this stinking 00:34:04.710 --> 00:34:06.480 microphone down now, you know? 00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:08.080 If I have to create an account. 00:34:08.080 --> 00:34:09.680 Oh, damn. 00:34:09.680 --> 00:34:10.240 Well, benefits. 00:34:10.240 --> 00:34:11.280 I don't know what to do. 00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:12.750 Well, you aren't going to be 00:34:12.750 --> 00:34:13.720 able to hear me. 00:34:13.720 --> 00:34:14.720 That's for sure. 00:34:14.720 --> 00:34:15.720 Hold on. 00:34:15.720 --> 00:34:16.220 Oh, wait. 00:34:16.220 --> 00:34:17.870 I hear there's a button that 00:34:17.870 --> 00:34:18.840 says get FWD. 00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:20.600 That must be it, right? 00:34:20.600 --> 00:34:21.080 I don't know. 00:34:21.080 --> 00:34:22.690 That's good marketing if it 00:34:22.690 --> 00:34:23.320 works. 00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:25.680 Yeah, get FWD phone. 00:34:25.680 --> 00:34:26.320 Now, you want to-- 00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:27.720 It's pre-configured. 00:34:27.720 --> 00:34:28.750 I don't really want to touch it 00:34:28.750 --> 00:34:28.920 . 00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:29.560 No, no, no, no. 00:34:29.560 --> 00:34:31.230 You just want the free X10 00:34:31.230 --> 00:34:31.680 client. 00:34:31.680 --> 00:34:34.840 And you have to sign up. 00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:35.440 Well, excuse me. 00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:38.640 Where the fuck would that be? 00:34:38.640 --> 00:34:39.440 Sorry. 00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:40.900 I've been watching the Sopranos 00:34:40.900 --> 00:34:41.480 too much. 00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:42.640 Yeah, really? 00:34:42.640 --> 00:34:44.280 Where the fuck would that be? 00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:44.780 Hold on. 00:34:44.780 --> 00:34:46.120 Let me see. 00:34:46.120 --> 00:34:47.080 Free world. 00:34:47.080 --> 00:34:48.570 So I hear they were talking 00:34:48.570 --> 00:34:49.790 about iPod Run, IT 00:34:49.790 --> 00:34:50.920 conversations. 00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:53.200 No kidding. 00:34:53.200 --> 00:34:54.320 Who was doing the talking? 00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:55.480 That's what I wanted to know. 00:34:55.480 --> 00:34:59.400 Steve actually started it off. 00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:00.900 Yeah, he's got to have major 00:35:00.900 --> 00:35:01.840 wood about iPod. 00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:03.920 Yeah, he-- he-- 00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:05.370 he scyped me the other day, and 00:35:05.370 --> 00:35:06.240 I wasn't around. 00:35:06.240 --> 00:35:07.590 And I scyped him back, although 00:35:07.590 --> 00:35:09.120 it said it was online. 00:35:09.120 --> 00:35:10.650 It either didn't go through or 00:35:10.650 --> 00:35:11.760 it didn't answer. 00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:12.990 And he said at the end of the 00:35:12.990 --> 00:35:13.240 show 00:35:13.240 --> 00:35:14.490 that next week they were going 00:35:14.490 --> 00:35:15.080 to talk about iPod 00:35:15.080 --> 00:35:16.600 or iPod platform, et cetera. 00:35:16.600 --> 00:35:18.180 So I was hoping that he was 00:35:18.180 --> 00:35:20.360 calling to have me on the show. 00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:21.560 That'd be cool. 00:35:21.560 --> 00:35:22.280 So if I go to-- 00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:23.020 That would be sort of like 00:35:23.020 --> 00:35:23.840 everything in one. 00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:25.330 That would be daily source code 00:35:25.330 --> 00:35:26.440 and IT conversations. 00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:27.860 That would be what we would 00:35:27.860 --> 00:35:29.320 call an integrated app. 00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:30.120 Download it now. 00:35:30.120 --> 00:35:30.960 Use it today. 00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:33.330 Did that not catch your eye, 00:35:33.330 --> 00:35:33.920 Dave? 00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:34.920 Sorry. 00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:37.570 Right in the middle of the page 00:35:37.570 --> 00:35:37.920 . 00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:38.560 Oh, there it is. 00:35:38.560 --> 00:35:40.560 That big blob of purple. 00:35:40.560 --> 00:35:42.080 Because excuse me, they have 00:35:42.080 --> 00:35:43.720 lots of crap like that on it. 00:35:43.720 --> 00:35:44.950 This is one of those pages 00:35:44.950 --> 00:35:46.160 where the whole different 00:35:46.160 --> 00:35:47.360 departments got the loop. 00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:48.730 And though we need a big purple 00:35:48.730 --> 00:35:51.160 blob here. 00:35:51.160 --> 00:35:52.920 It's the purple download blob. 00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:54.840 There are about 18 of them on 00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:55.880 the damn page. 00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:59.580 OK, so FWD IP phone light, is 00:35:59.580 --> 00:36:00.640 that it? 00:36:00.640 --> 00:36:01.680 Which one do I want? 00:36:01.680 --> 00:36:03.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on. 00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:04.200 Excuse me, you know I'm Windows 00:36:04.200 --> 00:36:04.680 , right? 00:36:04.680 --> 00:36:05.520 I'm not Mac. 00:36:05.520 --> 00:36:08.440 Yeah, it does Windows. 00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:10.080 So I want the FWD one. 00:36:10.080 --> 00:36:11.110 That's the first one in the 00:36:11.110 --> 00:36:11.480 list. 00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:12.840 That's what you always get. 00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:15.000 Let me just see. 00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:16.960 The IP phone light. 00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:18.600 No, no, no, hold on, hold on. 00:36:18.600 --> 00:36:24.760 You want the FWD X light. 00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:25.360 X light. 00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:26.360 Good thing I asked. 00:36:26.360 --> 00:36:27.560 Yeah, so then we'll have the 00:36:27.560 --> 00:36:28.240 same client. 00:36:28.240 --> 00:36:30.280 Oh, this will be interesting. 00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:31.080 All right, I'm running it. 00:36:31.080 --> 00:36:32.160 Oh, wow, that was quick. 00:36:32.160 --> 00:36:34.640 Did you have an account? 00:36:34.640 --> 00:36:35.960 No. 00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:36.910 Well, it won't work without an 00:36:36.910 --> 00:36:37.320 account. 00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:38.460 I'm just doing what you told me 00:36:38.460 --> 00:36:38.720 to. 00:36:38.720 --> 00:36:40.840 I told you to sign up. 00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:42.120 You did not. 00:36:42.120 --> 00:36:43.870 Yeah, then you said I'll need 00:36:43.870 --> 00:36:45.240 two hands to do that. 00:36:45.240 --> 00:36:45.640 Yeah. 00:36:45.640 --> 00:36:48.240 Stop downloading porn. 00:36:48.240 --> 00:36:49.110 Wait, you're sending me the 00:36:49.110 --> 00:36:49.400 porn. 00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:49.960 Get with the program, will you? 00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:50.760 Get with the program. 00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:53.210 I'm watching Katie Wallace on 00:36:53.210 --> 00:36:53.840 CNN. 00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:55.680 That's porn. 00:36:55.680 --> 00:36:57.240 Not really. 00:36:57.240 --> 00:36:58.760 You know what really sucks? 00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:01.000 You know what sucks about-- 00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:01.600 I'm using the-- 00:37:01.600 --> 00:37:02.200 Katie Wallace? 00:37:02.200 --> 00:37:03.200 No. 00:37:03.200 --> 00:37:04.880 About-- 00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:06.300 Actually, your name is Kelly 00:37:06.300 --> 00:37:07.360 Wallace, though. 00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:09.340 Audio hijack pro that I'm using 00:37:09.340 --> 00:37:10.240 to record. 00:37:10.240 --> 00:37:12.130 So it can record from any 00:37:12.130 --> 00:37:13.200 application, 00:37:13.200 --> 00:37:15.410 but only if that application is 00:37:15.410 --> 00:37:16.120 actually 00:37:16.120 --> 00:37:18.560 sending audio data. 00:37:18.560 --> 00:37:21.440 And so Skype, whenever you-- 00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:22.920 Homeless, whenever you're quiet 00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:23.960 like you are right now, 00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:25.110 then it basically is not 00:37:25.110 --> 00:37:26.400 sending out any audio. 00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:30.150 And just for a split second, if 00:37:30.150 --> 00:37:31.240 it doesn't receive the-- 00:37:31.240 --> 00:37:32.870 it should have like a time gate 00:37:32.870 --> 00:37:33.400 on it. 00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:35.770 For a split second, if the 00:37:35.770 --> 00:37:36.680 audio is gone, 00:37:36.680 --> 00:37:38.380 then basically the connection 00:37:38.380 --> 00:37:39.000 shuts down. 00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:40.880 And my mic channel still stays 00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:41.600 active. 00:37:41.600 --> 00:37:43.000 But then for some reason, it 00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:43.560 goes into-- 00:37:43.560 --> 00:37:44.680 it just did it. 00:37:44.680 --> 00:37:45.840 It goes into delay mode. 00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:48.320 Then I hear myself delayed by 00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:49.560 about half a second 00:37:49.560 --> 00:37:50.280 on my headphones. 00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:51.430 And I have to stop the mic and 00:37:51.430 --> 00:37:52.200 start it again. 00:37:52.200 --> 00:37:53.120 It's very irritating. 00:37:53.120 --> 00:37:54.000 Hey, that sucks. 00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:54.480 Yeah. 00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:55.280 Yeah, it's no good. 00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:56.430 You know, when Dr. Dave was 00:37:56.430 --> 00:37:58.320 talking on your show yesterday, 00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:00.040 you could hear that the 00:38:00.040 --> 00:38:01.480 software he was using 00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:02.800 was dropping out the blank 00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:03.440 periods. 00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:04.720 Oh, well, he wasn't using-- 00:38:04.720 --> 00:38:06.970 what he did is he pre-recorded 00:38:06.970 --> 00:38:07.080 -- 00:38:07.080 --> 00:38:08.640 I know who Dr. Dave is. 00:38:08.640 --> 00:38:09.690 This is one of these guys, and 00:38:09.690 --> 00:38:10.200 I love him. 00:38:10.200 --> 00:38:11.480 You know, he's probably-- 00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:12.350 well, I don't want to guess his 00:38:12.350 --> 00:38:12.600 age. 00:38:12.600 --> 00:38:13.520 Doesn't matter. 00:38:13.520 --> 00:38:14.240 He sits at home. 00:38:14.240 --> 00:38:15.120 He's got a studio. 00:38:15.120 --> 00:38:17.680 He's got an ISDN box. 00:38:17.680 --> 00:38:19.390 And ad companies, movie 00:38:19.390 --> 00:38:20.320 companies, you know, 00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:21.440 people call him up. 00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:22.280 And they say, OK. 00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:24.200 And he's just like the Jerry Se 00:38:24.200 --> 00:38:26.880 infeld trailer for his movie. 00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:28.760 And the guy goes, in a world 00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:30.600 where women wear comfortable 00:38:30.600 --> 00:38:33.480 shoes and aren't lesbians. 00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:35.520 That kind of stuff. 00:38:35.520 --> 00:38:37.500 And I'm sure that he recorded 00:38:37.500 --> 00:38:39.200 his bit and then edited it. 00:38:39.200 --> 00:38:40.920 Because I heard some-- 00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:42.240 either he edited it by hand or, 00:38:42.240 --> 00:38:43.660 indeed, he had a silent stri 00:38:43.660 --> 00:38:43.920 pper 00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:45.640 just mush it all together. 00:38:45.640 --> 00:38:46.440 You could hear it. 00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:47.120 It was awful. 00:38:47.120 --> 00:38:48.120 Yeah. 00:38:48.120 --> 00:38:49.800 There was the big radio sound. 00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:51.840 It was beautiful. 00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:53.140 Really, it is the big radio 00:38:53.140 --> 00:38:53.640 sound. 00:38:53.640 --> 00:38:55.230 It's kind of like at the end of 00:38:55.230 --> 00:38:56.400 the car commercials 00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:57.570 where they tell you all the 00:38:57.570 --> 00:38:59.080 different little legalities. 00:38:59.080 --> 00:38:59.720 Yeah. 00:38:59.720 --> 00:39:00.750 Your results may vary due to 00:39:00.750 --> 00:39:01.920 road and weather conditions. 00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:03.000 But we're prohibited by law. 00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:04.000 That's the slow version. 00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:09.360 [INAUDIBLE] 00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:11.080 So have you registered yet? 00:39:11.080 --> 00:39:11.840 No. 00:39:11.840 --> 00:39:13.200 I only have one hand here. 00:39:13.200 --> 00:39:14.760 Can I register? 00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:16.020 I don't even know where to 00:39:16.020 --> 00:39:16.720 register. 00:39:16.720 --> 00:39:17.640 Oh, man. 00:39:17.640 --> 00:39:18.600 Hold on. 00:39:18.600 --> 00:39:20.840 I said, look for the blob. 00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:21.400 I'm looking. 00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:22.000 I'm looking. 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:22.480 Hold on. 00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:25.360 Oh, it's a little deep in. 00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:25.880 Let's see. 00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:27.360 This is stupid. 00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:28.520 Gotten in Berber? 00:39:28.520 --> 00:39:29.200 That was funny. 00:39:29.200 --> 00:39:30.210 That was the marketing 00:39:30.210 --> 00:39:30.920 department. 00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:33.000 Get FWD. 00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:34.000 That's what I clicked on. 00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:35.160 Oh, sign up. 00:39:35.160 --> 00:39:35.960 That's a sign up. 00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:36.640 Sign up. 00:39:36.640 --> 00:39:37.400 Right. 00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:37.840 All right. 00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:39.740 Step one is purchase pre-config 00:39:39.740 --> 00:39:40.720 ured hardware 00:39:40.720 --> 00:39:42.120 or download, blah, blah, blah. 00:39:42.120 --> 00:39:42.600 Got that. 00:39:42.600 --> 00:39:43.000 Got that. 00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:43.480 Yeah. 00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:44.280 OK, great. 00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:45.830 Plug in your phone to install 00:39:45.830 --> 00:39:46.800 your software. 00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:48.320 And you did that? 00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:49.240 No. 00:39:49.240 --> 00:39:50.200 I thought you installed it. 00:39:50.200 --> 00:39:50.840 I thought it was running. 00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:51.320 Yeah. 00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:52.160 Oh, whoa. 00:39:52.160 --> 00:39:52.800 Oh. 00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:55.100 Gee, you'll install this free 00:39:55.100 --> 00:39:56.640 world dial-up crap 00:39:56.640 --> 00:39:58.440 from unknown IP. 00:39:58.440 --> 00:39:59.600 Excuse me. 00:39:59.600 --> 00:40:02.390 I'm busy accepting the 00:40:02.390 --> 00:40:04.160 agreement. 00:40:04.160 --> 00:40:05.240 I'll call you back. 00:40:05.240 --> 00:40:07.240 I read the whole thing. 00:40:07.240 --> 00:40:08.920 Excuse me. 00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:10.680 To accept this agreement. 00:40:10.680 --> 00:40:11.680 Welcome. 00:40:11.680 --> 00:40:12.400 OK, this is great. 00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:13.990 It says, welcome to the X-Bike 00:40:13.990 --> 00:40:15.120 free world dial-up, 00:40:15.120 --> 00:40:16.770 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, 00:40:16.770 --> 00:40:16.920 blah, blah, blah, blah, 00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:17.600 next. 00:40:17.600 --> 00:40:18.520 OK, thanks. 00:40:18.520 --> 00:40:23.600 Yaman! 00:40:23.600 --> 00:40:25.240 Yo, buddy. 00:40:25.240 --> 00:40:27.440 Well, that was fun. 00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:28.080 Yeah. 00:40:28.080 --> 00:40:28.800 For you. 00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:30.830 That was about 45 minutes of d 00:40:30.830 --> 00:40:31.600 icking around. 00:40:31.600 --> 00:40:33.440 My side works. 00:40:33.440 --> 00:40:34.840 How do you know yours works? 00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:36.210 Oh, because there's a whole 00:40:36.210 --> 00:40:37.520 bunch of numbers you can call. 00:40:37.520 --> 00:40:39.160 You can call service numbers. 00:40:39.160 --> 00:40:40.770 And it'll give you the weather 00:40:40.770 --> 00:40:41.480 and the time. 00:40:41.480 --> 00:40:42.950 And it has a voice-activated 00:40:42.950 --> 00:40:43.360 system. 00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:44.800 And there's a callback and an 00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:45.600 echo check. 00:40:45.600 --> 00:40:47.440 And all kinds of great stuff. 00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:47.840 And-- 00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:48.690 So did you have to go through 00:40:48.690 --> 00:40:49.160 all this shit 00:40:49.160 --> 00:40:50.240 that I had to go through? 00:40:50.240 --> 00:40:51.160 Even worse. 00:40:51.160 --> 00:40:53.560 It's so fucking stupid. 00:40:53.560 --> 00:40:53.960 I mean-- 00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:55.280 Why do they do this this way? 00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:56.430 Why don't they test it with 00:40:56.430 --> 00:40:57.240 human beings? 00:40:57.240 --> 00:40:59.400 Well, I think it-- 00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:01.290 well, the Windows version that 00:41:01.290 --> 00:41:02.240 you downloaded, 00:41:02.240 --> 00:41:03.520 it comes preconfigured. 00:41:03.520 --> 00:41:04.490 And that's right, because you 00:41:04.490 --> 00:41:05.560 had all the information already 00:41:05.560 --> 00:41:08.280 stored in there, right? 00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:09.760 Yeah, but it was wrong. 00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:10.160 What? 00:41:10.160 --> 00:41:11.200 What do you mean it was wrong? 00:41:11.200 --> 00:41:12.040 It didn't work. 00:41:12.040 --> 00:41:13.000 Well, OK. 00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:14.670 But that doesn't mean that the 00:41:14.670 --> 00:41:16.280 information was wrong. 00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:16.980 Because I'm using the same 00:41:16.980 --> 00:41:17.440 information-- 00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:19.640 No, it doesn't. 00:41:19.640 --> 00:41:21.390 Your setup is different from 00:41:21.390 --> 00:41:22.400 what they expect. 00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:24.120 That's probably what it is. 00:41:24.120 --> 00:41:25.560 I have a clue for you, though. 00:41:25.560 --> 00:41:27.000 Skype worked the first time. 00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:27.680 No problem there. 00:41:27.680 --> 00:41:28.440 Yeah, I know. 00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:29.160 I know. 00:41:29.160 --> 00:41:31.320 So somebody figured it out. 00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:32.560 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:41:32.560 --> 00:41:33.960 Isn't it funny how that works? 00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:35.480 I mean, you know, I don't know. 00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:37.750 It's really too bad, because 00:41:37.750 --> 00:41:39.160 the X10 client-- 00:41:39.160 --> 00:41:40.130 now, of course, we don't know 00:41:40.130 --> 00:41:40.640 how it sounds, 00:41:40.640 --> 00:41:42.380 but it keeps the Audio Hijack 00:41:42.380 --> 00:41:43.360 Pro running. 00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:44.200 Hold on. 00:41:44.200 --> 00:41:45.400 It keeps it running. 00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:46.810 The minute you activate it, 00:41:46.810 --> 00:41:47.360 then it just 00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:48.720 keeps its audio channels open. 00:41:48.720 --> 00:41:49.830 It doesn't cut off, so I don't 00:41:49.830 --> 00:41:50.840 get that crappy delay. 00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:51.920 So it'd be nice if we could-- 00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:53.320 Yeah, it'd be really nice if we 00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:53.760 could-- 00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:55.970 So it's better technology, then 00:41:55.970 --> 00:41:56.240 ? 00:41:56.240 --> 00:41:57.120 No, no. 00:41:57.120 --> 00:41:58.440 I wouldn't say that at all. 00:41:58.440 --> 00:41:59.400 I haven't heard the voice 00:41:59.400 --> 00:41:59.920 quality yet. 00:41:59.920 --> 00:42:01.560 And so far, the systems, which 00:42:01.560 --> 00:42:02.440 are all automated, 00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:03.710 that I've called, which are 00:42:03.710 --> 00:42:04.600 computer voices, 00:42:04.600 --> 00:42:05.960 I was not blown away by. 00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:09.200 Let me just see-- 00:42:09.200 --> 00:42:10.600 Now you're slowing down again. 00:42:10.600 --> 00:42:13.360 You're talking like you're 00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:14.920 going through-- 00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:16.200 no, you're better now. 00:42:16.200 --> 00:42:18.760 What were you saying about 00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:19.200 Skype? 00:42:19.200 --> 00:42:20.320 Oh, that's right. 00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:22.640 Oops, oops, oops. 00:42:22.640 --> 00:42:24.270 It's only 10.15 in the morning, 00:42:24.270 --> 00:42:25.480 and I'm burned out too. 00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:27.420 Chris, I hate farting around 00:42:27.420 --> 00:42:28.720 with software out of my-- 00:42:28.720 --> 00:42:29.520 I've spent a whole life. 00:42:29.520 --> 00:42:31.680 I gave my whole life for this. 00:42:31.680 --> 00:42:32.600 I know. 00:42:32.600 --> 00:42:34.520 All I want is it to work. 00:42:34.520 --> 00:42:36.690 But it'll be so worth it if we 00:42:36.690 --> 00:42:38.360 can get it to work. 00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:39.320 All right. 00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:40.630 Well, next time, we'll figure 00:42:40.630 --> 00:42:41.320 this one out. 00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:41.760 Yeah. 00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:42.960 OK, so what are we going to do? 00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:43.520 I wait-- 00:42:43.520 --> 00:42:44.720 [INAUDIBLE] 00:42:44.720 --> 00:42:46.960 Sorry? 00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:48.000 Yeah, go ahead. 00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:48.690 Well, I was going to say, what 00:42:48.690 --> 00:42:49.520 are we going to do? 00:42:49.520 --> 00:42:51.030 We're going to try and do a 00:42:51.030 --> 00:42:53.480 trade secrets during the VP 00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:55.560 debate? 00:42:55.560 --> 00:42:57.120 Well, I think we better do 00:42:57.120 --> 00:42:58.120 another dry run, OK, 00:42:58.120 --> 00:43:00.780 like this one, because just to 00:43:00.780 --> 00:43:01.680 see if-- 00:43:01.680 --> 00:43:03.700 Well, Skype is clearly not the 00:43:03.700 --> 00:43:04.200 answer, 00:43:04.200 --> 00:43:06.600 because the quality is just-- 00:43:06.600 --> 00:43:07.240 Well, here's the deal. 00:43:07.240 --> 00:43:08.240 --it drops out. 00:43:08.240 --> 00:43:09.400 I've got to talk-- first of all 00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:09.680 , you've 00:43:09.680 --> 00:43:10.850 got to get me a description for 00:43:10.850 --> 00:43:12.080 your blogger concession. 00:43:12.080 --> 00:43:13.020 Yeah, yeah, I told you this 00:43:13.020 --> 00:43:13.440 weekend. 00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:14.440 I promised you this weekend. 00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:15.480 Uh-huh, yeah. 00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:15.760 Well, that means-- 00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:16.740 Yeah, well, there's a weekend 00:43:16.740 --> 00:43:17.040 over. 00:43:17.040 --> 00:43:19.170 Look, I can even go nine hours 00:43:19.170 --> 00:43:20.080 into Monday 00:43:20.080 --> 00:43:22.300 and still get it to you by the 00:43:22.300 --> 00:43:23.360 weekend. 00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:25.960 All right, OK. 00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:27.920 I got to get the violin out. 00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:29.920 Like, running conferences-- 00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:30.930 when I was at the Scobals the 00:43:30.930 --> 00:43:31.520 other night, 00:43:31.520 --> 00:43:33.440 these are both ex-conference gi 00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:34.000 vers. 00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:35.320 Scobals had a whole career 00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:36.080 doing this. 00:43:36.080 --> 00:43:38.160 And I said, there's nothing you 00:43:38.160 --> 00:43:39.600 can do to get people to sort 00:43:39.600 --> 00:43:41.820 of like realize that there's 00:43:41.820 --> 00:43:43.520 only one person managing 00:43:43.520 --> 00:43:45.200 this whole stinking conference. 00:43:45.200 --> 00:43:46.640 And you know-- 00:43:46.640 --> 00:43:47.940 They'll never realize it, of 00:43:47.940 --> 00:43:48.600 course not. 00:43:48.600 --> 00:43:49.990 No, but it's the point is it's 00:43:49.990 --> 00:43:51.280 another one of those deals 00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:53.390 where I don't think I'm doing 00:43:53.390 --> 00:43:54.400 this again. 00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:56.770 Because when they say, hey, you 00:43:56.770 --> 00:43:57.840 want to do a conference, 00:43:57.840 --> 00:43:58.950 all I remember is the good shit 00:43:58.950 --> 00:43:59.120 . 00:43:59.120 --> 00:44:00.040 You know what I mean? 00:44:00.040 --> 00:44:00.800 Hey, hold on. 00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:01.360 Hold on. 00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:01.960 I just got-- 00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:02.680 What? 00:44:02.680 --> 00:44:05.720 What does error 407 mean? 00:44:05.720 --> 00:44:06.510 That's what you were getting, 00:44:06.510 --> 00:44:06.800 right? 00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:07.960 Yeah. 00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:08.520 This isn't-- 00:44:08.520 --> 00:44:10.080 Oh, yeah. 00:44:10.080 --> 00:44:12.260 It's under the troubleshooting 00:44:12.260 --> 00:44:12.880 tips. 00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:14.320 This is an authentication error 00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:14.520 . 00:44:14.520 --> 00:44:15.740 This occurs most often when 00:44:15.740 --> 00:44:16.440 your password 00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:17.760 in your phone configuration 00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:19.320 does not match the only-- 00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:21.870 the one currently assigned to 00:44:21.870 --> 00:44:23.440 the FWD number. 00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:24.410 You must use the password you 00:44:24.410 --> 00:44:26.600 've chosen for your FWD account. 00:44:26.600 --> 00:44:27.630 Note that if you change your 00:44:27.630 --> 00:44:28.040 password 00:44:28.040 --> 00:44:29.220 through the My Account section 00:44:29.220 --> 00:44:30.090 of the free roll dial-up 00:44:30.090 --> 00:44:30.520 website, 00:44:30.520 --> 00:44:32.040 you must blah, blah, blah, blah 00:44:32.040 --> 00:44:33.120 , blah, blah. 00:44:33.120 --> 00:44:33.960 So maybe you typed your 00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:34.560 password in. 00:44:34.560 --> 00:44:35.880 Oh, I didn't change my password 00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:35.880 . 00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:37.960 Maybe-- but yet you typed it 00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:40.200 into the phone, right? 00:44:40.200 --> 00:44:41.360 Something like that. 00:44:41.360 --> 00:44:42.600 How do I change my password? 00:44:42.600 --> 00:44:43.600 I guess it's right here. 00:44:43.600 --> 00:44:45.320 Hold on. 00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:46.280 We don't want to change it. 00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:47.920 You want to make sure that-- 00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:49.480 Well, I remember when I typed. 00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:51.360 I mean, it's not like it's-- 00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:53.160 you know how it works, right? 00:44:53.160 --> 00:44:54.340 I gave these guys my low 00:44:54.340 --> 00:44:56.160 security password, right? 00:44:56.160 --> 00:44:57.870 The one that basically 00:44:57.870 --> 00:44:58.960 everybody has. 00:44:58.960 --> 00:44:59.880 That's right. 00:44:59.880 --> 00:45:01.060 I might as well just say what 00:45:01.060 --> 00:45:01.640 it is, right? 00:45:01.640 --> 00:45:03.340 Because everybody listening to 00:45:03.340 --> 00:45:04.120 this, I haven't-- 00:45:04.120 --> 00:45:05.480 No, don't do that. 00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:06.120 Don't do that. 00:45:06.120 --> 00:45:07.270 Everyone's diving into their 00:45:07.270 --> 00:45:08.080 Manila websites. 00:45:08.080 --> 00:45:09.120 What's Dave's password? 00:45:09.120 --> 00:45:09.880 [LAUGHTER] 00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:12.360 That would be cool. 00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:13.490 They can hijack your phone 00:45:13.490 --> 00:45:14.000 number. 00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:15.200 Well, no, then Manila would 00:45:15.200 --> 00:45:16.240 just turn into a wiki. 00:45:16.240 --> 00:45:16.800 That's awesome. 00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:17.960 Oh, exactly. 00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:19.840 It's the wikified version. 00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:20.840 Oh, wow. 00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:21.810 That would be great, wouldn't 00:45:21.810 --> 00:45:22.040 it? 00:45:22.040 --> 00:45:22.540 Yeah. 00:45:22.540 --> 00:45:24.200 I can't find-- listen, this 00:45:24.200 --> 00:45:25.920 user interface is so good. 00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:26.440 You like it? 00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:27.440 I hate it. 00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:28.320 No, I'm only kidding. 00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:28.820 Oh, OK. 00:45:28.820 --> 00:45:31.720 It's so phone-like that I can't 00:45:31.720 --> 00:45:32.800 find it. 00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:35.190 They make-- even phones aren't 00:45:35.190 --> 00:45:37.640 this difficult to operate. 00:45:37.640 --> 00:45:39.040 Those are pretty bad. 00:45:39.040 --> 00:45:40.000 This is really horrible. 00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:41.250 I mean, it looks just like a 00:45:41.250 --> 00:45:43.440 phone with a metal brush. 00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:45.000 Oops, they go like that mic. 00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:46.620 And by the way, that's why I 00:45:46.620 --> 00:45:49.720 spent $3,000 on a great laptop. 00:45:49.720 --> 00:45:50.720 On a what? 00:45:50.720 --> 00:45:52.510 On a laptop so I could get a 00:45:52.510 --> 00:45:53.600 cell phone. 00:45:53.600 --> 00:45:54.440 But it's free. 00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:56.840 Once it works, it's free, Dave. 00:45:56.840 --> 00:45:57.720 Oh, free. 00:45:57.720 --> 00:45:58.200 Oh, yeah. 00:45:58.200 --> 00:46:00.080 As in beer. 00:46:00.080 --> 00:46:01.720 Oh, cool. 00:46:01.720 --> 00:46:02.940 Well, so did you do your 00:46:02.940 --> 00:46:03.680 password? 00:46:03.680 --> 00:46:05.040 I have not found a place to put 00:46:05.040 --> 00:46:05.840 my password. 00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:08.280 OK, it's on-- you got-- 00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:09.320 Shit, I hate this. 00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:11.160 Skype sucks. 00:46:11.160 --> 00:46:12.310 I totally know how to get to 00:46:12.310 --> 00:46:12.880 the menu. 00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:13.360 OK. 00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:14.520 I got the menus down. 00:46:14.520 --> 00:46:15.960 Right, under user settings-- 00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:17.520 system settings. 00:46:17.520 --> 00:46:18.240 System settings. 00:46:18.240 --> 00:46:19.320 System settings. 00:46:19.320 --> 00:46:20.560 Yeah. 00:46:20.560 --> 00:46:21.240 System settings. 00:46:21.240 --> 00:46:21.960 OK. 00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:22.440 That way. 00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:23.240 Very nice. 00:46:23.240 --> 00:46:24.720 Network. 00:46:24.720 --> 00:46:25.400 No, I'm sorry. 00:46:25.400 --> 00:46:27.160 Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, 00:46:27.160 --> 00:46:28.160 wrong, wrong. 00:46:28.160 --> 00:46:29.160 Wrong. 00:46:29.160 --> 00:46:30.160 OK. 00:46:30.160 --> 00:46:30.760 Wrong. 00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:31.360 Fuck. 00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:33.380 Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, b 00:46:33.380 --> 00:46:34.280 ing, bing. 00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:35.360 Your time is up. 00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:36.120 Shut up. 00:46:36.120 --> 00:46:37.720 The correct answer is-- 00:46:37.720 --> 00:46:39.120 Be quiet, Dave. 00:46:39.120 --> 00:46:40.120 Hold on. 00:46:40.120 --> 00:46:41.040 Be quiet, Dave. 00:46:41.040 --> 00:46:42.760 Tell her to shut up. 00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:43.960 I'm not going to say that to my 00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:44.560 daughter. 00:46:44.560 --> 00:46:45.400 Oh, OK. 00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:46.960 You're a horrible man. 00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:47.560 Oh, yeah. 00:46:47.560 --> 00:46:49.480 You're a childless man. 00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:49.800 Yes. 00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:50.800 I can tell. 00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:51.960 Oh, god. 00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:53.480 What, what, Christina? 00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:55.110 She said I should shut the fuck 00:46:55.110 --> 00:46:55.480 up. 00:46:55.480 --> 00:46:57.760 Yeah, exactly. 00:46:57.760 --> 00:46:59.160 Oh, man, this is-- 00:46:59.160 --> 00:47:00.890 you're like Uncle Dave, and you 00:47:00.890 --> 00:47:05.160 're like Uncle Ernie from Tommy. 00:47:05.160 --> 00:47:07.960 Now, where the fuck is the-- 00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:10.190 here, my sip username, we got 00:47:10.190 --> 00:47:11.080 all that. 00:47:11.080 --> 00:47:12.600 Where's the goddamn password? 00:47:12.600 --> 00:47:13.840 Yeah, this is what I-- 00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:15.040 This is crazy. 00:47:15.040 --> 00:47:16.880 So much for Uncle Ernie, right? 00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:18.080 Wait a minute, wait a minute. 00:47:18.080 --> 00:47:19.360 This is nuts. 00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:20.560 Yeah, tell me about it. 00:47:20.560 --> 00:47:21.080 Hold on. 00:47:21.080 --> 00:47:21.440 Now, where-- 00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:22.680 I don't think you can change 00:47:22.680 --> 00:47:23.400 your password. 00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:24.480 Yes, you can. 00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:25.040 I've done it. 00:47:25.040 --> 00:47:27.600 I think once set, you are like 00:47:27.600 --> 00:47:27.600 -- 00:47:27.600 --> 00:47:29.600 No, no. 00:47:29.600 --> 00:47:31.640 No, don't tell me that. 00:47:31.640 --> 00:47:33.110 I don't think you get to change 00:47:33.110 --> 00:47:33.440 it. 00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:34.840 No, that's crap. 00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:36.040 That's horse crap. 00:47:36.040 --> 00:47:36.400 Hold on. 00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:37.400 Maybe the phone book. 00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:38.280 Maybe we have to go to the 00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:38.840 phone book. 00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:42.120 [LAUGHTER] 00:47:42.120 --> 00:47:43.080 Oh, man. 00:47:43.080 --> 00:47:45.720 I hope Jeff Paulver hears this. 00:47:45.720 --> 00:47:47.310 I mean, we're smart guys, right 00:47:47.310 --> 00:47:47.520 ? 00:47:47.520 --> 00:47:48.240 Oh, yeah. 00:47:48.240 --> 00:47:50.910 I don't feel so smart right now 00:47:50.910 --> 00:47:51.280 . 00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:52.120 Call settings. 00:47:52.120 --> 00:47:53.320 It makes me feel-- this is my 00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:54.920 favorite thing about software. 00:47:54.920 --> 00:47:55.800 But yeah. 00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:57.050 When I feel too smart, I just 00:47:57.050 --> 00:47:58.040 launch some software 00:47:58.040 --> 00:48:00.840 and I feel stupid right away. 00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:01.880 This is horrible. 00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:03.480 It's really good. 00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:04.560 I understand. 00:48:04.560 --> 00:48:05.720 Proxy default. 00:48:05.720 --> 00:48:06.520 Oh, registering. 00:48:06.520 --> 00:48:07.320 Hold on. 00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:08.040 Uh-oh. 00:48:08.040 --> 00:48:09.800 Oh, no. 00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:12.080 Can you hear that? 00:48:12.080 --> 00:48:13.200 Can you hear that? 00:48:13.200 --> 00:48:15.240 I heard it work. 00:48:15.240 --> 00:48:16.120 What? 00:48:16.120 --> 00:48:17.200 Did it work? 00:48:17.200 --> 00:48:18.320 I don't know. 00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:20.240 You said proxy registering. 00:48:20.240 --> 00:48:22.880 Well, I hit something. 00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:24.000 What's your number? 00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:24.640 What's your number? 00:48:24.640 --> 00:48:25.400 The same difference. 00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:26.280 Same difference. 00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:27.000 What's your number? 00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:28.160 Hold on. 00:48:28.160 --> 00:48:31.280 Number is 495297. 00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:32.160 It's not going to work. 00:48:32.160 --> 00:48:37.120 Call up Kevin Werbach. 00:48:37.120 --> 00:48:38.880 He works for the Paulver guy. 00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:39.680 What? 00:48:39.680 --> 00:48:41.350 He does-- they did the Super 00:48:41.350 --> 00:48:42.880 nova Conference. 00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:44.240 It was Paulver Communications. 00:48:44.240 --> 00:48:45.320 Jeff Paulver, right? 00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:45.920 Yeah. 00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:47.160 Yeah, right. 00:48:47.160 --> 00:48:48.960 OK, you're still not on-- wait 00:48:48.960 --> 00:48:49.360 a minute. 00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:51.120 Did you find your password? 00:48:51.120 --> 00:48:52.120 Nah. 00:48:52.120 --> 00:48:53.320 A whole lot. 00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:54.080 What I did was-- 00:48:54.080 --> 00:48:55.280 This is going to piss me off. 00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:56.760 Yeah, what'd you do? 00:48:56.760 --> 00:48:57.880 What I did was-- 00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:04.480 to the green phone icon. 00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:06.240 And right clicked on it. 00:49:06.240 --> 00:49:07.240 Really? 00:49:07.240 --> 00:49:10.840 Proxy's turned on. 00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:12.280 Maybe I want proxy turned on. 00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:12.800 Maybe? 00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:13.400 I don't know. 00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:14.840 But do I have that? 00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:15.840 Let me see if I even have that. 00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:17.140 No, proxy's still turned on no 00:49:17.140 --> 00:49:17.840 matter what. 00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:18.320 No. 00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:18.800 I don't know. 00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:19.480 That's dial tone. 00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:21.640 Audio tuning wizard. 00:49:21.640 --> 00:49:22.120 Welcome to-- 00:49:22.120 --> 00:49:22.920 No, you don't want that. 00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:26.880 Oh, diagnostic log. 00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:28.000 Where is that? 00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:28.560 Oh, I have that. 00:49:28.560 --> 00:49:30.570 If I right click under the 00:49:30.570 --> 00:49:32.240 green dial button-- 00:49:32.240 --> 00:49:34.640 oh, shit. 00:49:34.640 --> 00:49:35.920 Did I get-- 00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:38.600 Audio tuning wizard, diagnostic 00:49:38.600 --> 00:49:39.200 log. 00:49:39.200 --> 00:49:40.800 I don't see anything like that. 00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:41.400 OK. 00:49:41.400 --> 00:49:42.480 Well, that's not where you want 00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:42.800 to be. 00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:44.520 You want to be in your menu-- 00:49:44.520 --> 00:49:47.120 now this is so fucking crazy. 00:49:47.120 --> 00:49:48.000 I was here. 00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:50.640 I did this. 00:49:50.640 --> 00:49:52.920 How come I can't find the-- 00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:56.280 man, my Mac is freaking out too 00:49:56.280 --> 00:49:56.280 . 00:49:56.280 --> 00:49:57.590 Oh, I have a little thing here 00:49:57.590 --> 00:49:58.280 that says AC. 00:49:58.280 --> 00:49:59.380 Does that-- wouldn't be your 00:49:59.380 --> 00:50:00.200 initials, would it? 00:50:00.200 --> 00:50:01.600 Yeah, what's it for? 00:50:01.600 --> 00:50:02.600 AC? 00:50:02.600 --> 00:50:03.360 AC. 00:50:03.360 --> 00:50:04.960 Does it say that I called you? 00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:06.800 No, it's just a black and-- 00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:09.520 it's flashing red, AC. 00:50:09.520 --> 00:50:10.720 So you know there's another 00:50:10.720 --> 00:50:12.160 hurricane going to Florida. 00:50:12.160 --> 00:50:13.080 I heard about that. 00:50:13.080 --> 00:50:14.260 There's already all kinds of R 00:50:14.260 --> 00:50:15.240 SS feeds that track it. 00:50:15.240 --> 00:50:16.280 I got to post that. 00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:18.200 Yeah, yeah. 00:50:18.200 --> 00:50:19.550 Anyway, so what you just didn't 00:50:19.550 --> 00:50:22.560 hear was a whole bunch of crap. 00:50:22.560 --> 00:50:24.120 Where it didn't work. 00:50:24.120 --> 00:50:25.080 And it didn't work. 00:50:25.080 --> 00:50:26.360 It was like an-- 00:50:26.360 --> 00:50:28.970 what was it, an hour and a half 00:50:28.970 --> 00:50:30.720 of fucking crap. 00:50:30.720 --> 00:50:31.320 All right. 00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:32.580 I had nothing better to do, 00:50:32.580 --> 00:50:33.600 like get a release-- 00:50:33.600 --> 00:50:34.100 Get a-- 00:50:34.100 --> 00:50:34.600 Yeah. 00:50:34.600 --> 00:50:35.400 Exactly. 00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:36.700 Nothing, nothing at all 00:50:36.700 --> 00:50:37.480 important. 00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:38.440 I'm going to leave it running 00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:39.120 though, Dave, 00:50:39.120 --> 00:50:40.950 because I know that when you 00:50:40.950 --> 00:50:41.480 have-- 00:50:41.480 --> 00:50:42.450 on your lunch break, you're 00:50:42.450 --> 00:50:44.440 going to immediately dive into 00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:44.800 it. 00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:45.760 Here's how it works. 00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:47.260 You know how you do a crossword 00:50:47.260 --> 00:50:47.640 puzzle, 00:50:47.640 --> 00:50:49.630 and you go away from it, and 00:50:49.630 --> 00:50:50.760 you come back, 00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:52.140 and you find five different 00:50:52.140 --> 00:50:52.960 moves that you just 00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:53.640 didn't see before? 00:50:53.640 --> 00:50:54.400 Yeah. 00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:55.400 That's what this is like. 00:50:55.400 --> 00:50:56.640 OK. 00:50:56.640 --> 00:50:57.560 All right, Adam, it was a 00:50:57.560 --> 00:50:59.120 pleasure talking with you as 00:50:59.120 --> 00:50:59.680 usual. 00:50:59.680 --> 00:51:00.800 Well, likewise. 00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:01.920 It was this very ad hoc. 00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:03.730 But let's see if we can get 00:51:03.730 --> 00:51:05.000 something working 00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:07.080 with that X10 phone. 00:51:07.080 --> 00:51:09.800 If it does, otherwise I want to 00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:10.560 do the-- 00:51:10.560 --> 00:51:12.040 you said it was tomorrow night? 00:51:12.040 --> 00:51:13.000 No, when was it? 00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:13.480 Monday night? 00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:14.000 It's tomorrow night. 00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:14.600 We'll check it out. 00:51:14.600 --> 00:51:15.620 No, it's definitely not going 00:51:15.620 --> 00:51:16.280 to be Monday night. 00:51:16.280 --> 00:51:17.270 It'll be tomorrow night, 00:51:17.270 --> 00:51:17.800 probably. 00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:18.640 I mean, I'll check it out. 00:51:18.640 --> 00:51:19.200 OK. 00:51:19.200 --> 00:51:20.240 But yeah, yeah. 00:51:20.240 --> 00:51:21.240 It'll be-- so that'll be Monday 00:51:21.240 --> 00:51:21.880 morning for me, 00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:22.650 so we've got to kind of figure 00:51:22.650 --> 00:51:23.760 out what the time is. 00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:24.770 Right, like in the middle of 00:51:24.770 --> 00:51:25.560 the night for you. 00:51:25.560 --> 00:51:25.960 Yeah? 00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:27.960 Or early morning. 00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:31.280 It'll probably be 3 PM here. 00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:31.920 We'll find out. 00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:34.160 6 will be midnight my time. 00:51:34.160 --> 00:51:34.720 Yeah. 00:51:34.720 --> 00:51:35.880 That'll be-- no, it's all due. 00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:37.290 But hey, for in the name of 00:51:37.290 --> 00:51:39.200 science, I'm happy to do this. 00:51:39.200 --> 00:51:40.480 You're a scientist, Adam. 00:51:40.480 --> 00:51:41.600 That's why I like you. 00:51:41.600 --> 00:51:42.880 You're a scientist. 00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:45.000 You have a PhD, right, in 00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:45.760 science. 00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:46.280 Anyway. 00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:47.720 Hey, I'm going to hit the tune. 00:51:47.720 --> 00:51:49.400 Let's get the fuck out of here. 00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:50.800 OK, I'm out of here. 00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:51.600 I'll see you, Dave. 00:51:51.600 --> 00:51:52.100 Bye. 00:51:52.100 --> 00:51:53.330 [MUSIC - THE DREAMS, CREWS, GAM 00:51:53.330 --> 00:51:54.280 PITS, FOR YOU, BOYS] 00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:56.880 It's trade and it ain't secrets 00:51:56.880 --> 00:51:57.160 . 00:51:57.160 --> 00:51:58.640 Trade secrets. 00:51:58.640 --> 00:52:00.160 Trade secrets. 00:52:00.160 --> 00:52:02.610 These heads will finally keep 00:52:02.610 --> 00:52:04.520 this trade secret. 00:52:04.520 --> 00:52:06.000 Trade secrets. 00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:08.000 You don't need-- 00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:38.000 .